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  • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

    "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

    It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

    It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

    What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

    The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

    There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

    It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

    https://marginalia-search.com/

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    inawhilecrocodile@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #41

    @eliasulrich

    Thanks for sharing. 🙏

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    • miramarmike@cloudisland.nzM miramarmike@cloudisland.nz

      @eliasulrich not very good though, hopefully it gets better.

      I did a search for my name as I have had a blog for over 20 years, didn't come up.

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      aka_quant_noir@hcommons.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #42

      @miramarmike @eliasulrich So it's anti-stalking.

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      • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

        "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

        It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

        It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

        What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

        The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

        There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

        It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

        https://marginalia-search.com/

        voguelagalere@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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        voguelagalere@mastodon.online
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #43

        @eliasulrich Something other than Google -- that sounds wonderful. But technical achievement aside, what makes Google succeed is money. From other comments it appears you received some funding from a government agency? What is going to be the source of funding to keep the lights on for this project?

        Seems to me the practical consideration of who's paying for it needs to be given consideration and mention.

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        • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

          "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

          It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

          It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

          What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

          The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

          There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

          It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

          https://marginalia-search.com/

          kasperd@westergaard.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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          kasperd@westergaard.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #44

          I definitely like that somebody has managed to get as far as this. Until I saw this I was worried that we might have gotten to the point where the barrier to entry was too high for any new search engines to get created. It would be concerning if we were forever stuck with only Microsoft, Google, and third party frontends for those two.

          I am concerned whether that search engine will survive with donations as the only source of income. If he gets more users the service might get more expensive to keep up.

          One thing that does put me off a little bit is that most of the URLs in the search results are censored and that every link away from the site goes through a redirector that obscures the URL.

          But I sure hope it will be successful, as we need alternatives to the big two.

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          • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

            "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

            It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

            It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

            What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

            The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

            There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

            It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

            https://marginalia-search.com/

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            nicelymanifest@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #45

            @eliasulrich Reminds me of when Google said that the left hand column of results would remain pristine.

            How profit crushes promises.

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            • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

              "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

              It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

              It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

              What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

              The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

              There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

              It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

              https://marginalia-search.com/

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              falcennial@mastodon.social
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #46

              @eliasulrich THANK YOU XC FOR THIS EPIC POST, AND WOLFMAN FOR BOOSTING IT 💯🤌🤌🤌

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              • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                https://marginalia-search.com/

                keisatsu@infosec.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                keisatsu@infosec.exchange
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #47

                @eliasulrich Looks nice! And while I couldn't find a AI/LLM-policy it looks #slopfree

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                • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                  "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                  It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                  It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                  What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                  The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                  There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                  It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                  https://marginalia-search.com/

                  renardboy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  renardboy@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #48

                  @eliasulrich HOLY SHIT BOOST BOOST BOOST

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                  • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                    "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                    It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                    It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                    What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                    The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                    There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                    It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                    https://marginalia-search.com/

                    bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    bredroll@mas.to
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #49

                    @eliasulrich this is very good!

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                    • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                      "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                      It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                      It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                      What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                      The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                      There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                      It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                      https://marginalia-search.com/

                      bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      bredroll@mas.to
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #50

                      @eliasulrich at university i made my own search engine with crawlers too, but mine scraped google and yahoo to start with

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                      • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                        "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                        It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                        It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                        What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                        The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                        There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                        It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                        https://marginalia-search.com/

                        allpurposemat@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                        allpurposemat@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
                        allpurposemat@mastodon.gamedev.place
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #51

                        @eliasulrich oohh awesome! It doesn't find me sadly... but I might switch to it for usual queries.

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                        • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                          "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                          It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                          It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                          What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                          The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                          There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                          It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                          https://marginalia-search.com/

                          disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          disorderlyf@todon.eu
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #52

                          @eliasulrich So my test search query when I try out a new search engine is "the meaning of life." This is the one search engine I've tried where only one of the results were the same as others. I don't think that's a bad thing. At worst, I was surprised the Wikipedia article on Monty Python's The Meaning of Life showed, but not the general Wikipedia article for it. I need to use it more, though.

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                          • allpurposemat@mastodon.gamedev.placeA allpurposemat@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            @eliasulrich oohh awesome! It doesn't find me sadly... but I might switch to it for usual queries.

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                            darwinwoodka@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #53

                            @allpurposemat @eliasulrich

                            Pulled up an article about me from when I started writing a column for a computer magazine in 1998

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                            • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                              "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                              It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                              It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                              What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                              The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                              There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                              It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                              https://marginalia-search.com/

                              xx@chaos.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                              xx@chaos.social
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                              #54

                              @eliasulrich sounds very promising

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                              • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                https://marginalia-search.com/

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                                drwho@masto.hackers.town
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #55

                                @eliasulrich <binoculars>

                                <optical scanning drones>

                                <looking patiently for sign of the milkshake duck>

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                                • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                  "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                  It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                  It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                  What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                  The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                  There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                  It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                  https://marginalia-search.com/

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                                  canleaf@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #56

                                  @eliasulrich hopefully not örebro connections. i have my reservation with some tech claiming to be genuine and pro privacy.

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                                  • rupert@mastodon.nzR rupert@mastodon.nz

                                    @Devonkiwi @eliasulrich The online equivalent of sending the boys round to break the windows and intimidate the customers of a competitor.

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                                    drwho@masto.hackers.town
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #57

                                    @rupert @Devonkiwi @eliasulrich I was just going to say...

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                                    • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                      "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                      It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                      It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                      What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                      The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                      There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                      It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                      https://marginalia-search.com/

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                                      mkalmes@chaos.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #58

                                      @eliasulrich
                                      cc @hukl

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                                      • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

                                        @miramarmike @daveybot @eliasulrich https://github.com/MarginaliaSearch/submit-site-to-marginalia-search

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                                        tjenwellens@mas.to
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #59

                                        @woe2you @miramarmike @daveybot @eliasulrich I remember having to tell google about my blog existing. Back when I started it. So kinda seems normal that you'd need to do that again for a search engine that starts from scratch

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                                        • eliasulrich@hachyderm.ioE eliasulrich@hachyderm.io

                                          "One guy in #Sweden built a #searchengine to fight Google, and it works.

                                          It's called #MarginaliaSearch.

                                          It runs its own #crawler and builds its own #index instead of borrowing Bing's. It has no ads, no investors, and no loans.

                                          What it does differently: it ranks for text-heavy, non-commercial pages. Personal blogs. Old university pages.

                                          The weird corners SEO strangled. Every result tells you whether the page uses affiliate links and JavaScript, and you can filter them out.

                                          There's an "explore" mode that just shows you random sites from the index. It's open source under AGPL, so you can host your own copy.

                                          It's keyword-based, so don't type a full question at it. Type two nouns and see where you land. Every #searchengine now shows you the same twelve #monetizedpages."

                                          https://marginalia-search.com/

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                                          hammerwell@troet.cafe
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #60

                                          @eliasulrich Qwant and Ecosia are building their own index too. https://www.eu-searchperspective.com/

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