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  • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

    well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

    i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

    it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

    anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

    (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

    molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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    molly0xfff@hachyderm.io
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    #13

    workshopping a new sticker

    C michaeltbacon@social.coopM scruss@xoxo.zoneS voline@kolektiva.socialV gadgetgav@mas.toG 8 Replies Last reply
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    • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

      well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

      i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

      it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

      anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

      (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

      newstik@social.heise.deN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #14

      @molly0xfff Did ALA complain about your stickers?

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      • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

        workshopping a new sticker

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        codingattempts@twit.social
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        #15

        @molly0xfff I would buy it.

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        • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

          workshopping a new sticker

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          #16

          @molly0xfff I know that the point here is that ALA are kind of being jerkfaces about copyrighting a slogan like that, but if you wanted a replacement, I've always loved this panel from the comic Girl Genius and I'd hope the Foglios would be willing to work together on a product that used the phrasing or the art.

          https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20160127

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          • jessamyn@glammr.usJ jessamyn@glammr.us

            @molly0xfff NOT COOL of them. I know that part of having a trademark is that you (could) lose it if you don't defend it but still, geez, ironic and, again, not cool.

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            #17

            @jessamyn @molly0xfff Seems like it was not cool of some marketplace making sure it covered its ass. I bet a license to make use of the phrase could be obtained for a small share of the profits.

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            • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

              workshopping a new sticker

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              #18

              @molly0xfff
              Read Freely, Free People

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              • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                #19

                @molly0xfff or they could have just bought the stickers from you and sold them ...

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                • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                  well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                  i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                  it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                  anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                  (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                  #20

                  @molly0xfff I'm wearing the shirt as I write this!

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                  • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                    workshopping a new sticker

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                    #21

                    @molly0xfff

                    "Anarchy Now!"?

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                    • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                      workshopping a new sticker

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                      #22

                      @molly0xfff “Peep Feeple, Freed Really”

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                      • darryl_ramm@hachyderm.ioD darryl_ramm@hachyderm.io

                        @molly0xfff

                        Freedom to Read Foundation can severely fuck off. Claiming 1st amendment importance in what they do they want to suppress other people's rights to express thoughts. What a bunch of tools.

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                        #23

                        @molly0xfff

                        And this whole thing smells like a crock of shit.

                        "free people read freely" is a statement of fact. It really should not in any universe be trademarkable.

                        The registration 7446426 application was filed on 2023-05-03. It claiming a first use in commerce/anywhere of January 01, 1999. A bullshit "we don't really know when" date.

                        And more recently on Mar. 12, 2026 the fucktard foundation filed a USPTO application 99697593. "Amusingly" it is a supplemental filing for a plain word mark for use including on stickers.

                        Oh could their legal weenies be out trying to suppress prior use on stickers?

                        There appears to be an office action open for the fucktard foundation to reply to the USPTO to show proper use of the mark in trade in this new application. The publishing for opposition should happen after that is resolved.

                        If this was me I'd have some fun filing an opposition to that when it is published.

                        There are some nice threads here to be pulled by somebody wanting/able to. If only there was a foundation that promoted free speech and first amendment rights that could go after the fucktard Freedom to Read Foundation for their 1st amendments suppression. Maybe the EFF or Public Citizen Litigation Group are worth having a chat with.

                        (non lawyer who has dealt with a good amount of trademark and other IP stuff. Edit to correct my missuse of trademark terminology)

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                        • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                          well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                          i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                          it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                          anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                          (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                          #24

                          @molly0xfff

                          Perhaps they trademarked it through a company that provides an infringement surveillance service for clients, and that company automatically sent the nastygram to the site.

                          (No idea if such services exist but it seems like a no-brainer to turn a one time fee-for-service into an ongoing subscription.)

                          If you could get in touch with the correct person (no idea how) perhaps you could get permission. Might need to add a citation or credit to the sticker.

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                          • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                            workshopping a new sticker

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                            #25

                            @molly0xfff heck yes

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                            • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                              workshopping a new sticker

                              aburka@hachyderm.ioA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              aburka@hachyderm.io
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                              #26

                              @molly0xfff just transpose it

                              FREE READ
                              PEOPLE FREELY

                              you can't control the interpretation, we read freely after all
                              (this is not legal advice)

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                              • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                                i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                                it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                                anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                                (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

                                elaterite@mastoart.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #27

                                @molly0xfff As much as I love and appreciate the American Library Association (ALA)--they helped out extensively with my anti-Patriot Act campaign in Nevada--you'd think they would be open culture advocates given that the mission of libraries is to make books (culture) free for all to explore. "Free people read freely" is a silly thing to trademark and antithetical to the ALA's mission. 🫤

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                                • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

                                  @molly0xfff just transpose it

                                  FREE READ
                                  PEOPLE FREELY

                                  you can't control the interpretation, we read freely after all
                                  (this is not legal advice)

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                                  #28

                                  @molly0xfff another approach: https://plush.city/@PsyChuan/117062772363772506

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                                  • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                    well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                                    i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                                    it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                                    anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                                    (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                                    #29

                                    @molly0xfff REAL PEOPLE READ REALLY

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                                    • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                      workshopping a new sticker

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                                      #30

                                      @molly0xfff Free Freely, Read People!

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                                      • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                        well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                                        i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                                        it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                                        anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                                        (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                                        #31

                                        @molly0xfff So happy I grabbed a shirt and a sticker for @jaymeb when I had the chance.

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                                        • molly0xfff@hachyderm.ioM molly0xfff@hachyderm.io

                                          well that sucks. apparently the ALA/Freedom To Read Foundation have trademarks on the phrase "free people read freely", which i use in a lino print i made into stickers a few years ago.

                                          i got the phrase from a 2023 speech by librarian and former ALA leader Tracie D. Hall. i didn't think to check if it was trademarked because, lol, what a wild thing to trademark. turns out the trademark had been granted two months before i made the print.

                                          it's no big deal from a business perspective — i don't sell these stickers for much more than they cost, because i mostly just think it's an important message that i want to help people share. just a bummer.

                                          anyway if you were wondering what happened to the stickers, now you know

                                          (reposted this after realizing i had the chronology wrong in the OP. i originally thought all of the trademarks were filed after i made my print, but had missed the original one, which was in fact filed previously.)

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                                          #32

                                          @molly0xfff Someone should trademark the trademark symbol, then everybody would agree it’s a stupid idea 🤷‍♂️😁

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