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  3. Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies.

Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies.

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  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

    Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies. It’s not worth it. https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/pentagon-ai-claude-bombing-elementary-school

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    #3

    @hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange I've been angry about this every single day this week. Multiple times, even. "This is so good at coding!!! we're gonna get left behind!!" no it isn't, no you aren't, they are using it to fucking kill people, which should never have been a thing you should have had to consider because frankly you already should have rejected the usage of LLMs due to the eight million other ethical and moral problems with them.

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    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

      Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies. It’s not worth it. https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/pentagon-ai-claude-bombing-elementary-school

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      #4

      @hacks4pancakes
      Just ask yourself:
      If they didn't - would they still deny it?

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      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

        Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies. It’s not worth it. https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/pentagon-ai-claude-bombing-elementary-school

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        #5

        @hacks4pancakes
        Safe bet there's a contractual clause saying the Pentagon is not allowed to explain which manufacturer's "product" they used.

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        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

          Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies. It’s not worth it. https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/pentagon-ai-claude-bombing-elementary-school

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          #6

          @hacks4pancakes Could not agree more. And so long as these companies are solely blamed, and not the Commander-in-Chief of the United States military, that's another victory for DJ "bone spurs" T.

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          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

            Please, please stop supporting gen AI companies. It’s not worth it. https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/pentagon-ai-claude-bombing-elementary-school

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            #7

            Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

            wendynather@infosec.exchangeW jmax@mastodon.socialJ momo@social.linux.pizzaM mndflayr@metalhead.clubM cosmicktrigger@mastodon.socialC 7 Replies Last reply
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            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

              Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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              #8

              @hacks4pancakes You’re my hero.

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              • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                #9

                @hacks4pancakes Thank you.

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                • wendynather@infosec.exchangeW wendynather@infosec.exchange

                  @hacks4pancakes You’re my hero.

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                  #10

                  @wendynather @hacks4pancakes seconded

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                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                    Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                    #11

                    @hacks4pancakes
                    I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

                    Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

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                    • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

                      @hacks4pancakes
                      I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

                      Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

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                      #12

                      @momo @hacks4pancakes

                      That one's really hard because they have shown themselves to be both so many times

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                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                        Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                        #13

                        @hacks4pancakes

                        Congrats for the second post in that screen shot, I think the point you made there is not stated often enough.

                        I really hate how LLM took over the general term "AI", that has been used in CS research for dozens of different approaches.

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                        • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

                          @hacks4pancakes
                          I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

                          Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

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                          #14

                          @momo @hacks4pancakes Both.

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                          • mndflayr@metalhead.clubM mndflayr@metalhead.club

                            @hacks4pancakes

                            Congrats for the second post in that screen shot, I think the point you made there is not stated often enough.

                            I really hate how LLM took over the general term "AI", that has been used in CS research for dozens of different approaches.

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                            #15

                            @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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                            • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

                              @hacks4pancakes
                              I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

                              Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

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                              #16

                              @momo @hacks4pancakes The leadership is swayed by the AI $$$. And they're too stupid to conider anything else. At work we've been testing a Claude-based system to remediate mssing alt-text in ebooks, and the results would not make me confident you could use it for targeting. In fact, the opposite of that.

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                              • momo@social.linux.pizzaM momo@social.linux.pizza

                                @hacks4pancakes
                                I wonder if that decision to use AI in targetting was based on "Yes, use AI, it's perfect and can't do mistakes!!" or rather "We know that AI makes wrong decisions and combining this with live ammunition costs innocent lives. But it's not our civilians who get blown up, so we don't care. Acceptable is good enough!"-Irresponsibity.

                                Or in simple terms: Are they ignorantly stupid or just cruel?

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                                #17

                                @momo @hacks4pancakes

                                Third option:
                                They're cruel and murderous on purpose (Israel is committing genocide in Gaza and the US supports it after all) and initially planned to use AI as plausible denial for PR reasons, but don't because it doesn't make it look any better. Worse, in fact.

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                                • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                  @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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                                  #18

                                  @hacks4pancakes
                                  Its the opposite for me. I drink and I stop knowing things. 😋

                                  @mndflayr

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                                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                    Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                                    #19

                                    @hacks4pancakes

                                    To be fair, it's really easy to spin people up on Bluesky.

                                    I don't know of any truly left-leaning people who support AI.

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                                    • cosmicktrigger@mastodon.socialC cosmicktrigger@mastodon.social

                                      @hacks4pancakes

                                      To be fair, it's really easy to spin people up on Bluesky.

                                      I don't know of any truly left-leaning people who support AI.

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                                      #20

                                      @hacks4pancakes

                                      We just need to give better training to the LLMs and make them wear body cams

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                                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                        Phew, that spun people up on BlueSky

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                                        #21

                                        @hacks4pancakes and the smug "military targeters would probably have made the same mistake" makes me think of Chief Wright (Stonekettle Station) who did targeting during the first Gulf War and talked about sleepless nights double-checking intelligence to make sure they didn't kill civilians, and called off attacks when they couldn't be sure, who would have been personally devastated if they learned a missile they launched had killed school-kids. The military structure at the time allowed him to care about such things, but Secretary Kegseth doesn't seem to care or have a soul as far as I can tell.

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                                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                          @mndflayr I drink and I know something

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                                          @hacks4pancakes I don’t, and that probably has brought me in the permanent state that Terry Pratchett once called “knurd”. -5/10 can’t recommend

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