Hard agree.
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@SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I am aware that this is not really the topic of your post, but I do not agree with the narrative that mastodon is hard to get started with.
It for sure is not quite as easy as with the centralized SoMe’s but I think it is more a question of motivation. If there is even the slightest barrier vis-a-vis what you are used to, you need to have some measure of dedication to the project, and that simply isn’t the case for the large majority.
Yes it is slightly tangential, but it remains interesting regardless. The "entry cost" at Mastodon is a bit higher than on most centralized social media platforms, and it does hamper uptake.
I think the rising "cost" of being on other social media changes the comparison slightly, so I remain hopeful that Mastodon might rise to greater importance.
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J jwcph@helvede.net shared this topic
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RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075
Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.
So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.
@SuneAuken
Mastodon has some interesting magic.
For example: your ‘toot’ landed on my timeline.
I'm Brazilian and we think alike.KeepOnRockin o/
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@SuneAuken
Mastodon has some interesting magic.
For example: your ‘toot’ landed on my timeline.
I'm Brazilian and we think alike.KeepOnRockin o/
@joaquim_satolep How lovely. Thank you.
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S suneauken@mastodon.world shared this topic
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@SuneAuken Been here about 4 years and have blocked maybe 5 accounts.
@toxy Lucky you. That's very nice.
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@SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I am aware that this is not really the topic of your post, but I do not agree with the narrative that mastodon is hard to get started with.
It for sure is not quite as easy as with the centralized SoMe’s but I think it is more a question of motivation. If there is even the slightest barrier vis-a-vis what you are used to, you need to have some measure of dedication to the project, and that simply isn’t the case for the large majority.
@mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram As someone who never user Xitter, I found Mastodon quite easy to adopt.
The problem is abandoning learned usage.
Most people who complain about Linux are complaining because it isn't Windows.
My first experience of computing was a Commodore Pet, followed by a Spectrum and then an Amiga. By the time I got to use Windows 3.11 in 1994, I had used several OSes, so later on, moving to Linux wasn't a shock. -
@toxy Lucky you. That's very nice.
@SuneAuken The benefits of having no public profile: security via obscurity.
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@SuneAuken The benefits of having no public profile: security via obscurity.
@toxy This too is true.
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@joaquim_satolep How lovely. Thank you.
@SuneAuken
The Fediverse has a high rejection rate for trolls/prejudiced/fascists and similar types.
For example: this idiot >>@reverton
See the block list...
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@mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram As someone who never user Xitter, I found Mastodon quite easy to adopt.
The problem is abandoning learned usage.
Most people who complain about Linux are complaining because it isn't Windows.
My first experience of computing was a Commodore Pet, followed by a Spectrum and then an Amiga. By the time I got to use Windows 3.11 in 1994, I had used several OSes, so later on, moving to Linux wasn't a shock.@wyliecoyoteuk @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram
Sound quite right. My uptake of Mastodon was predicated on my understanding of Twitter, but I left a large entourage behind and my personal feed on twitter was lively and satisfying. I KNEW how to tweet. Turns out I didn't really know how to toot. Now I do, somehow, but I'm not quite sure what I picked up in the process. I simply did.
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@toxy This too is true.
@SuneAuken Cold comfort I know but if you’re attracting that many keyboard warriors, especially on Mastodon, you’re doing something right.
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@SuneAuken Cold comfort I know but if you’re attracting that many keyboard warriors, especially on Mastodon, you’re doing something right.
I'm not attracting them. I'm just a pre-emptive blocker. See a troll (in whichever feed) block a troll. It's semi-automatic with me.
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@wyliecoyoteuk @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram
Sound quite right. My uptake of Mastodon was predicated on my understanding of Twitter, but I left a large entourage behind and my personal feed on twitter was lively and satisfying. I KNEW how to tweet. Turns out I didn't really know how to toot. Now I do, somehow, but I'm not quite sure what I picked up in the process. I simply did.
@SuneAuken @mapcar @Ruth_Mottram Of course losing all of your followers is also a drag, along with not knowing how to replicate that experience in a new environment.
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I'm not attracting them. I'm just a pre-emptive blocker. See a troll (in whichever feed) block a troll. It's semi-automatic with me.
@SuneAuken Ah! A new hobby which I can adopt.
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@SuneAuken Ah! A new hobby which I can adopt.
@toxy Highly recommended. Feels like a very small, albeit clearly benign, superpower.
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I'm not attracting them. I'm just a pre-emptive blocker. See a troll (in whichever feed) block a troll. It's semi-automatic with me.
@SuneAuken @toxy I am the same. If you’re being obnoxious anywhere I can see you, or, frankly, even just if I find your interests irritating, block, block, block away.
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@SuneAuken @toxy I am the same. If you’re being obnoxious anywhere I can see you, or, frankly, even just if I find your interests irritating, block, block, block away.
This. And then this again.
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@mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram As someone who never user Xitter, I found Mastodon quite easy to adopt.
The problem is abandoning learned usage.
Most people who complain about Linux are complaining because it isn't Windows.
My first experience of computing was a Commodore Pet, followed by a Spectrum and then an Amiga. By the time I got to use Windows 3.11 in 1994, I had used several OSes, so later on, moving to Linux wasn't a shock.@wyliecoyoteuk @mapcar @SuneAuken @Ruth_Mottram I am not a techie in any sense. I had an account on Xitter for 10 years at least, but never used it, because it was easy to join but hard to use. Xitter was confusing and full of assholes.
By contrast, I found Mastodon very easy to join and understand.
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RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075
Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.
So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.
@SuneAuken Even x.com (formerly Twitter) is a (real!) free speech platform now, thanks to Elon Musk. I would have never thought that I would ever write something like this...
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RE: https://vebinet.com/@dawid/115980586541269075
Hard agree. Many find that Mastodon requires a steep learning curve and coming over from the Dead Bird Site some years ago it took me a long time to find my way on Mastodon - not because of the tech involved but because tech and discursive practices go hand in hand. And discursive practices are hard hard hard to change.
So if you've moved here, and made a digtial home here: Welcome. Your efforts are hugely appreciated.
@SuneAuken I am baffled by the claim there is "a steep learning curve" for those used to Elon's folly. I fall farther behind in tech savvy every year but had no difficulty learning how to use Mastodon. If you're a wannabe influencer, you might struggle, because here you have to provide value, not just game the system.
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T tanyakaroli@expressional.social shared this topic
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Beyond that, the worst discursive practices I see here are sealioning, 'splaining, and toxic idealism.
But you know what? Coming from the omnishambles of hatred and disinformation on Twitter - even before the Muskification of the site - it remains a much much better SoMe home for someone like me.
I was always a cheerleader rather than a fighter. And there's so much here that's easy to cheer.
@SuneAuken Agree with all of everything in this thread.
But what is “sealioning?” That’s a new term for me
