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  3. It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

    Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

    Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

    schratze@todon.nlS ralchev@mastodon.socialR individual8@mastodon.socialI veronica@mastodon.onlineV anparker@mastodon.bsd.cafeA 9 Replies Last reply
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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

      Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

      Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

      schratze@todon.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @randahl they must have spent so much on lobbying. I don't know how else to explain this.

      Not to mention the driver's seat that moves automatically and squishes the person behind the driver. I've never been in any other vehicle that felt so much like a death trap.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

        Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

        Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

        ralchev@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
        ralchev@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @randahl It is one of the stupidest things new cars have. Hidden handles are neither beautiful, nor easy to work with. We seem to appreciate new approaches just because they are new, not because they make any sense. And this is applicable to everything.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

          Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

          Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

          individual8@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
          individual8@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @randahl I agree with most of what you contribute to the Fediverse, except for this one point. I drive a Model 3 myself, and the door handles are truly intuitive to use. They're almost as easy to operate as any other door handle.

          I doubt there's any reliable data to support the claim that many people are putting themselves in danger because of the door handles.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

            Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

            Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

            veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
            veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @randahl I've been in cars with handles like that several times, especially taxis, where I can't figure out how to get out even when everything is working. Sometimes I haven't been able to figure out how to get in either because the handles are hidden. I hate those designs with a passion. They're obviously a security hazard.

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            • individual8@mastodon.socialI individual8@mastodon.social

              @randahl I agree with most of what you contribute to the Fediverse, except for this one point. I drive a Model 3 myself, and the door handles are truly intuitive to use. They're almost as easy to operate as any other door handle.

              I doubt there's any reliable data to support the claim that many people are putting themselves in danger because of the door handles.

              veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
              veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @individual8 @randahl For something to be intuitive, you must right away understand how to use something without assistance. That is most definitely not true for Teslas. The first times I was in one the driver ended up opening the door for me. I hate those cars, and avoid them whenever I can.

              In any case, the safety claim is not about whether they're intuitive or not, but that they stop working when it matters the most.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

                Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

                Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

                https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

                anparker@mastodon.bsd.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
                anparker@mastodon.bsd.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @randahl Why do you think it whould change anywhere besides China? Apple makes iPhones with physical SIMs just for chinese market. Musk might do the same.

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                • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                  @individual8 @randahl For something to be intuitive, you must right away understand how to use something without assistance. That is most definitely not true for Teslas. The first times I was in one the driver ended up opening the door for me. I hate those cars, and avoid them whenever I can.

                  In any case, the safety claim is not about whether they're intuitive or not, but that they stop working when it matters the most.

                  individual8@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @veronica @randahl You hate Tesla obviously not for the door handles.

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                  • individual8@mastodon.socialI individual8@mastodon.social

                    @veronica @randahl You hate Tesla obviously not for the door handles.

                    veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @individual8 @randahl How the fuck do you know that? I encountered Teslas long before Elon came out as a Nazi, so my dislike has nothing to do with politics and predates the current issues by many years.

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                    • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                      @individual8 @randahl How the fuck do you know that? I encountered Teslas long before Elon came out as a Nazi, so my dislike has nothing to do with politics and predates the current issues by many years.

                      individual8@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @veronica Hatred is not usually directed at the smallest things in life.

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                      • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                        @individual8 @randahl For something to be intuitive, you must right away understand how to use something without assistance. That is most definitely not true for Teslas. The first times I was in one the driver ended up opening the door for me. I hate those cars, and avoid them whenever I can.

                        In any case, the safety claim is not about whether they're intuitive or not, but that they stop working when it matters the most.

                        individual8@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @veronica They're mechanical pieces like any other car, who said they'd stop working?

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                        • individual8@mastodon.socialI individual8@mastodon.social

                          @veronica Hatred is not usually directed at the smallest things in life.

                          veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
                          veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @individual8 What the hell does that even mean? They are horribly designed cars, and I hate bad design. Don't get me started on the ridiculous screen.

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

                            Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

                            Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

                            bouriquet@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @randahl Because 1.4 billion people with a strong protectionist government evidently have more clout.

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                            • individual8@mastodon.socialI individual8@mastodon.social

                              @veronica They're mechanical pieces like any other car, who said they'd stop working?

                              veronica@mastodon.onlineV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @individual8 I take it you didn't read the article before commenting. Typical.

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

                                Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

                                Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

                                https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

                                troy_frizzell@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @randahl

                                “Made popular” seems like Tesla marketing.

                                Show your work, BBC. Where are these handles popular?

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

                                  Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

                                  Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

                                  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

                                  dave@europhiles.ukD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @randahl apparently the EU rules started to come into force in 2022, but according to the YouTube video below it pertains to new models on the market and only kicked in 2024 (1 minute in).

                                  https://youtu.be/XvP11JtBmFc

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                                  • veronica@mastodon.onlineV veronica@mastodon.online

                                    @individual8 What the hell does that even mean? They are horribly designed cars, and I hate bad design. Don't get me started on the ridiculous screen.

                                    individual8@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @veronica You come across as a Tesla troll. I've been driving the car for almost four years and have never had such a reliable vehicle. Having to admit this as a fan of German cars was painful for a long time. Tesla's leadership is controversial for good reason, but to criticize the cars Tesla produces is, to put it mildly, idiotic.

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      It is really telling, that Tesla’s electric door handles have been trapping people inside burning cars for years, and it takes a ban from the Chinese market to get rid of them.

                                      Fortunately, from 2027 Elon Musk will be forced by the Chinese government to change his lethal design.

                                      Why on earth has the US and the EU not already banned these handles years ago?

                                      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp37g5nxe3lo

                                      pg1958@mastodon.sdf.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @randahl it should have been rectified after the first incident. The fact that it wasn't is reason enough to NEVER purchase anything from this person.

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