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  • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
    I wonder what was the logic of the ~5% of people that voted Remain but then moved to Stay Out
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    #18

    @csolisr

    Maybe it’s just every PM we’ve had since 2016 (with exception of Johnson and Truss)…

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    • P pulpnash@mastodon.social

      @thomasfuchs So basically, some people have died in the last 10 years?

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      #19

      @pulpnash @thomasfuchs

      I remember at the time people predicting that a decade on the balance would be tipped by the number of Leave voters dying combined with those too young to have voted wishing we had Remained. We knew we would reach this point - we now have to demand that public opinion is respected with a new referendum.

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      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

        Amazing graph

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        #20

        @thomasfuchs

        A referendum is an advisory snapshot on one day. To think there is any permanence to it is ridiculous…people change their minds (we’re allowed to change our minds at every general and local election) and people die and people come of age.

        #RejoinEU

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        • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

          Amazing graph

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          #21

          @thomasfuchs All I can think of is that here is an thin, invisible, sad line from "to young to vote" to "died".

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          • alsy@theforkiverse.comA alsy@theforkiverse.com

            @thomasfuchs Hard not to wonder whether elections, referenda should have an age cutoff (obviously this is not something that would ever fly, but it’s an interesting thought experiment).

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            #22

            @Alsy @thomasfuchs said for a long time that your vote should be worth less as you age.

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            • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

              Amazing graph

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              #23

              @thomasfuchs @siracusa ordering the wrong thing for the table before you leave the restaurant.

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              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                Amazing graph

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                #24

                @thomasfuchs
                Letztwähler.

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                • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
                  I wonder what was the logic of the ~5% of people that voted Remain but then moved to Stay Out
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                  #25

                  @csolisr

                  Maybe some of them just don't want big changes. They're happy enough in, and happy enough out.

                  Maybe some of them would still like to be in the EU, but are afraid of having 15 rounds of negotiation handled by 6 different PM again.

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                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                    Amazing graph

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                    #26

                    @thomasfuchs Sankey graphs are beautiful and useful things! 🙂

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                    • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                      Amazing graph

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                      #27

                      @thomasfuchs skanky diagram

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                      • csolisr@hub.azkware.netC csolisr@hub.azkware.net
                        I wonder what was the logic of the ~5% of people that voted Remain but then moved to Stay Out
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                        #28

                        @csolisr maybe they're bitter now and want to see the UK burn?

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                        • ret@furry.engineerR ret@furry.engineer

                          @Alsy @thomasfuchs said for a long time that your vote should be worth less as you age.

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                          #29

                          @ret @Alsy @thomasfuchs i think this should depend on when the policy effect most kicks in but by that logic nobody should get a vote what to do about climate change for example. It's just to messy to weaken the 1 person 1 vote idea.

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                          • bredroll@mas.toB bredroll@mas.to

                            @thomasfuchs the better view would be to exclude too young and died.

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                            #30

                            @Bredroll @thomasfuchs isn't that the whole point of this Graph? Wdym?

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                            • missqarnstein@eldritch.cafeM missqarnstein@eldritch.cafe

                              @Bredroll @thomasfuchs isn't that the whole point of this Graph? Wdym?

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                              #31

                              @missqarnstein @thomasfuchs i mean that the bottom of blocks on the rhs should be aligned with the same on the left, to show relative sizes better

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                              • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                Amazing graph

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                                #32

                                @thomasfuchs I don't understand how this could align with Reform UK's popularity 🤔

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                                • S superblox@mastodon.social

                                  @thomasfuchs I don't understand how this could align with Reform UK's popularity 🤔

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                                  #33

                                  @superblox people have short memory spans

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                                  • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                    Amazing graph

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                                    #34

                                    @thomasfuchs I feel as though this is missing a line for those who were and still are too young to vote.

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                                    • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

                                      @thomasfuchs I feel as though this is missing a line for those who were and still are too young to vote.

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                                      #35

                                      @DamonWakes that's irrelevant, just as are people who didn't and won't vote; neither have bearing on the outcome

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                                      • thomasfuchs@hachyderm.ioT thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io

                                        @DamonWakes that's irrelevant, just as are people who didn't and won't vote; neither have bearing on the outcome

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                                        #36

                                        @thomasfuchs I think it would be useful to highlight how much the stay out and rejoin categories would be likely to change in future. We've got a category for people who couldn't vote today because they died - why not one for those who could at some point down the line?

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                                        • damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.orgD damonwakes@mastodon.sdf.org

                                          @thomasfuchs I think it would be useful to highlight how much the stay out and rejoin categories would be likely to change in future. We've got a category for people who couldn't vote today because they died - why not one for those who could at some point down the line?

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                                          #37

                                          @DamonWakes fair I can see that

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