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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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    #42

    @Daojoan I am very late in the game joining social media. Often people would ask me how I could stay informed. I did not understand the question. I read books (fiction and various nonfiction), read articles (not only the headlines), listen to a variety of public radio broadcasts and podcasts. I was also aware of most of the silly memes. I really appreciated your comment about the value of reading books.

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

      bit@ohai.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #43

      @Daojoan Now with AI we all can pretend like we read a book every day.

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

        wolfie@deadinsi.deW This user is from outside of this forum
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        #44

        @Daojoan true though my local library literally encouraged competitive reading over the summer holidays in the 90s 😁

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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          #45

          @Daojoan it reminds me of churches convincing people to read the entire Bible every year but without any support. Then people read it and don't think about it. If they thought about what they read you would have way more people complaining about its weird parts!

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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            #46

            @Daojoan hmm wonder if this is one of the factors in reading comprehension?

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            • photo55@mastodon.socialP photo55@mastodon.social

              @Daojoan
              Was anyone convinced of that?

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              #47

              @Photo55 @Daojoan yes!! especially when using apps like goodreads or storygraph. i used to blog/post on instagram about books, the culture was really about reading as *many* books as you could, even if you didn’t like them. it’s still very much the same, on goodreads and especially on booktok. it sounds really silly but realising that i could read 15 good books a year rather than 50-100 mediocre ones was quite revolutionary 😅😅

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                #48

                @Daojoan

                i don't have a problem with it, some people have a competitive mentality & they literally would never do anything except to keep up with the Joneses -- any kind of reading exercises the brain, the imagination, & empathy even if it's just not that deep

                plus many fast reads aren't worth spending too much time on, the Jenna's Pick I'm listening to now (moral of the story: rich Florida sucks) doesn't need deep thought, it's something we already know

                disclosure: i do read a lot at speed

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                • wolfie@deadinsi.deW wolfie@deadinsi.de

                  @Daojoan true though my local library literally encouraged competitive reading over the summer holidays in the 90s 😁

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                  #49

                  @wolfie @Daojoan

                  ours still does, kids can win prizes

                  i don't see the harm in it

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                  • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                    @wolfie @Daojoan

                    ours still does, kids can win prizes

                    i don't see the harm in it

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                    #50

                    @peachfront @Daojoan yeah, it was one of the things I looked forward to over the summer 😄

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                      #51

                      @Daojoan What the current interactions on internet do is connecting people with other people, or fake representations of, in a "gamified" environment. Most games, to turn on our addiction, are competitive, requiring you you outperform the other partecipants.
                      So, it's not just on books: every interaction is planned by the game masters to make you search for a win.
                      In the end, this may be one of the reasons it's all resulting in a "shame machine", as described by Cathy O'Neil in her... books.

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                        #52

                        @Daojoan

                        I think the rise in audio books has a lot to do with this. I'm not convinced people are "reading" as much as we used to.

                        And that's not a slight on audio books, btw.

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                        • cynaq@beige.partyC cynaq@beige.party

                          @Daojoan I don’t think the internet did that organically. There’s major marketing involved in turning books into a basic consumable.

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                          #53

                          @CynAq @Daojoan

                          some books are basic consumables

                          some GENRES are basic consumables

                          i sometimes wonder if non romance readers have ANY clue about how many many many gay hockey romances were published every month (almost all by self published authors) since (i wanna say) maybe 2012 or 2013 before the world took notice and made a TV series

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                          • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

                            @Nicovel0 @Daojoan It is so hard to just... stop reading/watching/etc with stuff, but... sometimes one really really needs to just do it...

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                            #54

                            I've gotten used to it. If a show doesn't hold my interest past episode 3 or 4, it's done for me. It's why I've never watched much beloved shows who take 3 seasons to get good like DS9. I got better shit to do then slog through multiple seasons of "it's fine I guess" when there's so much else to watch.

                            @nazokiyoubinbou @Nicovel0 @Daojoan

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                              #55

                              @Daojoan I heard this on #BookTok.

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                #56

                                @Daojoan @briankrebs I love this ❤

                                I do think it can be beneficial to see reading & thinking as a practice - until recently I had fallen out of reading books & had a fear that I was somehow left behind. Especially when seeing lists and recommendations that seemed so far beyond what I had time or energy for.

                                Lately I've been reading whatever makes me keep reading, and I'm not focused on a number of books, rather I want reading to be something I do most days and something I do to relax.

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                  #57

                                  @Daojoan same for soo many good things in life ruined because of competition 😭

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                                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                    I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                    #58

                                    @Daojoan One thing I like to do is to limit myself to read only one hour each day (specially with Philosophy books), so I can think about the book the rest of the day.

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                      #59

                                      @Daojoan

                                      Me: I just finished "War and Peace" last night!
                                      Gimli: Still only counts as one!

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                                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                        I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                        #60

                                        @Daojoan I assure you lists of what you have read and reading counts were invented by people (and schools!) well before the internet.

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          I genuinely think the worst thing the internet did to reading was convince people that finishing books is a competitive sport. You don't need to read 52 books a year. You just need to read. Books you like. At your own pace. And think about them for longer than a TikTok video.

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                                          #61

                                          @Daojoan

                                          Before the internet, I used to read at least 1 book every week or two.

                                          At some point in the mid to late 2000's... That slowed to just a few a year.

                                          Then in the mid to late 2010's... I started reading a little more again... at least one book a month on avg.

                                          I still read a lot... but it's articles online now that take up a large chunk of it... I switched to reading books on a tablet sometime around 12-13yrs ago

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