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  • lxsameer@mastodon.socialL lxsameer@mastodon.social

    @EUCommission
    I think this poster has a big issue. The sentence “Conversion practices are not a cure”, implies that there is a cure, but this one is not one. And having a cure implies that you are talking about an illness. So even by using such a sentence, you are giving in to the idea of “it” being an illness, which I suppose your intentions are the opposite.

    angelascholder@mastodon.energyA This user is from outside of this forum
    angelascholder@mastodon.energyA This user is from outside of this forum
    angelascholder@mastodon.energy
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    #4

    @lxsameer @EUCommission Yep!

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    • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

      We hear you.

      And our reply is firm:
      ✋🏼These interventions must end.

      Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

      Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

      Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

      We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

      ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

      angelascholder@mastodon.energyA This user is from outside of this forum
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      angelascholder@mastodon.energy
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      #5

      @EUCommission Well, is it already banned and the ban enforced?
      If not, you are still letting us all down!

      BTW, maybe get a bit informed on the language to use!

      urwumpe@hessen.socialU 1 Reply Last reply
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      • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

        We hear you.

        And our reply is firm:
        ✋🏼These interventions must end.

        Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

        Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

        Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

        We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

        ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

        kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
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        kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.place
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #6

        @EUCommission ban them for minors, fine. Let adults do what they want to do though. Don't try to limit my freedom where this freedom is not affecting others in any negative way.

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        • angelascholder@mastodon.energyA angelascholder@mastodon.energy

          @EUCommission Well, is it already banned and the ban enforced?
          If not, you are still letting us all down!

          BTW, maybe get a bit informed on the language to use!

          urwumpe@hessen.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
          urwumpe@hessen.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @AngelaScholder @EUCommission They can't enforce it, that is the weakness of the commission. Only the member states can enforce it. But the commission will write a formal recommendation to the member states to adopt such a ban. Its sad, that even that recommendation is still in the future, considering how much even just the idea behind such "therapies" (Better: Torture) violates the human rights in all EU countries.

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          • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

            We hear you.

            And our reply is firm:
            ✋🏼These interventions must end.

            Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

            Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

            Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

            We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

            ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

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            joyandsadness@urbanists.social
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            #8

            @EUCommission should have said: lgbtq+ not a disease. Next line: ban all "cures". Saying conversion therapy is not a cure one might imply that other things are. Sloppy work again

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            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

              Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

              We hear you.

              And our reply is firm:
              ✋🏼These interventions must end.

              Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

              Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

              Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

              We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

              ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

              andreabont@m.posterdati.itA This user is from outside of this forum
              andreabont@m.posterdati.itA This user is from outside of this forum
              andreabont@m.posterdati.it
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #9

              @EUCommission 🥰

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              • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

                We hear you.

                And our reply is firm:
                ✋🏼These interventions must end.

                Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

                Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

                Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

                We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

                ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

                pa27@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                pa27@mastodon.social
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                #10

                @EUCommission They are psychobabble nonsense. Like cures for gays, back in the day. Remember Alan Turing.

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                • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

                  We hear you.

                  And our reply is firm:
                  ✋🏼These interventions must end.

                  Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

                  Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

                  Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

                  We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

                  ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

                  phoenixwright@ieji.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  phoenixwright@ieji.de
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                  #11

                  @EUCommission
                  By conversion practices, you mean converting from one gender to another?
                  If a person is an adult, why do you care what they do to their bodies? Isn't it transphobic?
                  If somebody has a gender dysphoria, this is a therapy and it's proven to work, preventing self harm.

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                  • kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.placeK kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @EUCommission ban them for minors, fine. Let adults do what they want to do though. Don't try to limit my freedom where this freedom is not affecting others in any negative way.

                    njord@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    njord@zeroes.ca
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                    #12

                    @Kosimus @EUCommission

                    It's a harmful practice that is medically unsound and deeply harmful to those who undergo it. Do you think adults should be able to sign up for a lobotomy, too?

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                      kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                      #13

                      @DavidNorth @EUCommission I don't wish to have any freedom to force other people to do or not do anything. At the same time, I don't want my freedom to cause harm to myself taken away.

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                      • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

                        @Kosimus @EUCommission

                        It's a harmful practice that is medically unsound and deeply harmful to those who undergo it. Do you think adults should be able to sign up for a lobotomy, too?

                        kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.placeK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        kosimus@mastodon.gamedev.place
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                        #14

                        @Njord @EUCommission of course. Adults should be able to do whatever they want to themselves. You can smoke, you can drink - OBVIOUSLY harmful. Let's be consistent.

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                        • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

                          We hear you.

                          And our reply is firm:
                          ✋🏼These interventions must end.

                          Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

                          Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

                          Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

                          We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

                          ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

                          katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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                          katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org
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                          #15

                          @EUCommission

                          As of today, also 1,190,055 citizens signed the petition to demand the full suspension of the #EU-#Israel Association Agreement in view of Israel’s violations of human rights.

                          Do you hear them, as well?
                          You won't let them down either, will you?

                          https://eci.ec.europa.eu/055/public

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                          • phoenixwright@ieji.deP phoenixwright@ieji.de

                            @EUCommission
                            By conversion practices, you mean converting from one gender to another?
                            If a person is an adult, why do you care what they do to their bodies? Isn't it transphobic?
                            If somebody has a gender dysphoria, this is a therapy and it's proven to work, preventing self harm.

                            njord@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
                            njord@zeroes.caN This user is from outside of this forum
                            njord@zeroes.ca
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                            #16

                            @PhoenixWright @EUCommission
                            The EU actually put out a statement supporting people's right to undergo gender reassignment recently.

                            "Conversion therapy" is something else entirely, It's a pseudoscientific "therapy" intended to make a person stop being LGBT+.

                            Like a lot of quackery, it is both harmful and and ineffective, which is why they want to ban it

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                            • eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                              Over one million citizens signed the petition to ban conversion practices.

                              We hear you.

                              And our reply is firm:
                              ✋🏼These interventions must end.

                              Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.

                              Yet, conversion practices, relying on the false idea that LGBTIQ+ people are sick, still exist and are causing long-lasting psychological and physical damage.

                              Your rights are an inseparable part of a true Union of Equality.

                              We won’t let you down.🏳️‍🌈

                              ➡️ https://link.europa.eu/PmbyM4

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                              druid@diclonius.princess.wedding
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                              #17
                              @EUCommission Good, but I hope you don't shy away from Islamic etc. cases of this just for the sake of appearing politically correct. Tolerating intolerance and all that.
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                              • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

                                @PhoenixWright @EUCommission
                                The EU actually put out a statement supporting people's right to undergo gender reassignment recently.

                                "Conversion therapy" is something else entirely, It's a pseudoscientific "therapy" intended to make a person stop being LGBT+.

                                Like a lot of quackery, it is both harmful and and ineffective, which is why they want to ban it

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                                phoenixwright@ieji.de
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                                #18

                                @Njord @EUCommission
                                This is confusing. Arent those statements synonymous?
                                To convert one's gender/to reassign one's gender mean the same thing to me.

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                                  #19

                                  @DavidNorth @EUCommission practically correct - I'm not interested in a conversion therapy, and I agree it's a harmful concept. It's more about the principle. I really don't like it when a government decides what is good or bad for me.

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                                  • njord@zeroes.caN njord@zeroes.ca

                                    @PhoenixWright @EUCommission
                                    The EU actually put out a statement supporting people's right to undergo gender reassignment recently.

                                    "Conversion therapy" is something else entirely, It's a pseudoscientific "therapy" intended to make a person stop being LGBT+.

                                    Like a lot of quackery, it is both harmful and and ineffective, which is why they want to ban it

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                                    eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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                                    #20

                                    Hello @Njord! Thank you for explaining, @PhoenixWright!

                                    We also included a definition of these practices in our response:
                                    Conversion practices on LGBTQ+ people are comprised of a diverse group of mental and physical manipulations, psycho-hypnotic indoctrinations (usually presented to public as “therapies”), medical and homoeopathic interventions, exorcism and other treatments enacted with the aim of altering Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity and Expression.
                                    https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000001_en

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                                    • nikthechampiongr@ohai.socialN nikthechampiongr@ohai.social

                                      @EUCommission You are using the linked in link shortener.

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                                      eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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                                      #21

                                      Hello @nikthechampiongr!
                                      The link shortener used here is our own. It can only shorten URLs on the europa.eu domain.
                                      If you prefer to access this site without a shortened link, here you go: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_1070

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                                      • J joyandsadness@urbanists.social

                                        @EUCommission should have said: lgbtq+ not a disease. Next line: ban all "cures". Saying conversion therapy is not a cure one might imply that other things are. Sloppy work again

                                        eucommission@ec.social-network.europa.euE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #22

                                        Hello @joyandsadness
                                        Being LGBTIQ+ doesn’t need to be cured.
                                        We also stated this in the text above the poster, but we thank you for your feedback on our visual communication. We will bear it in mind for the future.

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                                        • urwumpe@hessen.socialU urwumpe@hessen.social

                                          @AngelaScholder @EUCommission They can't enforce it, that is the weakness of the commission. Only the member states can enforce it. But the commission will write a formal recommendation to the member states to adopt such a ban. Its sad, that even that recommendation is still in the future, considering how much even just the idea behind such "therapies" (Better: Torture) violates the human rights in all EU countries.

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                                          #23

                                          Hello @urwumpe, @AngelaScholder!
                                          We considered several options, and, although a Recommendation is a non-binding legal act, it is the best and most effective instrument to achieve the objective of the ECI. That’s because banning conversion practices by means of criminal law is a competence of EU countries. Some countries have already done so. We are committed to supporting EU countries who are in the process of banning conversion practices and encourage others who wish to start the process. 🌈

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