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  • gilesgoat@toot.walesG gilesgoat@toot.wales

    @eniko I was trying to reason .. in an abstract sense .. suppose you'd have a power, that allows you to turn into 'any form you want' an idea you express in words. Would you be 'an artist' at this point ? I think the main difference between that and AI is that 'you leave most of the job to transform the idea into reality to a machine', a machine that is hungry for power, space and resources to feed it that ultimately are the works of others done by years of practicing and thinking. But I CONT.

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    #37

    @eniko CONT. the main thing is that it's not YOU doing the process of using knowledge and skills to transform an idea into reality, most of it is done by a machine that 'is not doing a mere machine task' it's replacing a personal/transformative process that a human should take and doing it 'with an algo' that 'doesn't really know what is doing' because AI has no consciousness. I think the problem in this case is you are "delegating too much of your task to a machine". And what if it malfunction

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    • tijn@dosgame.clubT tijn@dosgame.club

      @eniko It's definitely the one thing AI is very very good at: making it real clear who is a twat and who is not

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      #38

      @Tijn the twats outnumber us 10 to 1

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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        #39

        @eniko

        I for one, will not submit to the digital boot stomping down - as much as it is attempted to Trojan horse it through the doors as "just a tool"

        That said, it is hard seeing the people you looked up to fall into it. The people you love, relegate to it, not even spending the least amount of effort into you or the relation between you.

        I have no solution, I have no joke or pun.

        I am sorry. You are not alone in this, for all that may be worth.

        🫂

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        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

          Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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          #40

          @eniko you seem to be having about as good a week as me about this stuff. Solidarity with your conclusion of: gaaaaah

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            @deshipu not really, because a human being still had to make it

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            #41

            @eniko they probably just found a funny rock or something

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            • sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.placeS sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place

              @eniko you seem to be having about as good a week as me about this stuff. Solidarity with your conclusion of: gaaaaah

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              #42

              @sinbad I'm not having an amazing week no lol

              Sorry to hear you can commiserate

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              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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                #43

                @eniko I think the great filter is something that will need a little more staying power in terms of "capable of continuing to exist as a thing"

                all this *gestures* being propped up on the financialized instrument equivalent of a pile of nitroglycerine does not make me think it's going to last as-is

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @Tijn the twats outnumber us 10 to 1

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                  #44

                  @eniko Those who are twats will bring their inevitable end, while those who aren't will continue to prosper - Sun Tzu, probably, or it might have been Kropotkin /hj

                  @Tijn

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    Maybe this is it. Maybe this is the great filter. The wholesale fully automated computerized slaughter of meaning

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                    #45

                    @eniko I'll never understand it.

                    I had a coworker send me an LLM-generated email yesterday. I complained about the unreadability and unnecessary padding about it to another coworker, who suggested I *run it through an LLM for a summary*.

                    I remember being thrilled that I get to do this kind of work. Now it's like trying to work under a cold wet blanket.

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                    • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                      @eniko I think the great filter is something that will need a little more staying power in terms of "capable of continuing to exist as a thing"

                      all this *gestures* being propped up on the financialized instrument equivalent of a pile of nitroglycerine does not make me think it's going to last as-is

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                      #46

                      @SnoopJ I hope you're right

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @Tijn the twats outnumber us 10 to 1

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                        #47

                        @eniko @Tijn The twats can’t conduct a game jam without fibre op internet, we can build games in a bunker. We win.

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @SnoopJ I hope you're right

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                          #48

                          @eniko even if I am, it's not like the *present* situation where the pile of financialized instruments hasn't exploded doesn't ALSO suck

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                          • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                            @eniko I genuinely don't know how to get over this precise feeling.

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                            #49

                            @datarama @eniko it’s not an ideal setting in which to try to recover from burnout, live with depression, or anything, I guess.

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                            • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                              @datarama @eniko it’s not an ideal setting in which to try to recover from burnout, live with depression, or anything, I guess.

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                              @c0dec0dec0de @datarama not great for anxiety either lemme tell ya

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                Yeah it won't be good and it won't mean anything at all but it's *something* and it costs you nothing so why not slop out some more content for the dead internet, go wild, the social contract is fucking dead anyway

                                Jesus fucking christ

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                                @eniko the funny part is like, its definitely expensive to use in any real capacity. everyone who shows their whole ass has easily sent hundreds down the drain for that garbage.

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  Seriously it's like buying it in a shop and going "look at this cool thing I made!"

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                                  @eniko with how the gen AI systems have been trained, I'd almost say it's more like "taking something home from the british museum and showing everyone the cool thing you made"

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @Tijn the twats outnumber us 10 to 1

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                                    @eniko @Tijn I've seen a few counts. In most age groups, AI-lovers are in the minority. In most industries, they're in the minority. No one seems to want to count the general population, though, because that's apparently dangerous

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @c0dec0dec0de @datarama not great for anxiety either lemme tell ya

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                                      @eniko @c0dec0dec0de anxiety *and* depression. and a work life that increasingly feels like i'm running myself to death trying to prove that i still have any worth at all.

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                                      • cuirass_entertainment@mastodon.socialC cuirass_entertainment@mastodon.social

                                        @eniko @Tijn The twats can’t conduct a game jam without fibre op internet, we can build games in a bunker. We win.

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                                        @cuirass_entertainment Who ever said we'd be in the bunker? It'd be the twats in the bunker because they'd think their ai is going to exterminate all humans while we just unplug it

                                        @eniko @Tijn

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                                        • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                                          @eniko @c0dec0dec0de anxiety *and* depression. and a work life that increasingly feels like i'm running myself to death trying to prove that i still have any worth at all.

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                                          @eniko @c0dec0dec0de To be honest, it's not really the work life that hurts the most.

                                          I've had low-wage jobs before. I've also been long-term unemployed. It fucking sucks, but it's survivable - at least here where I am. I can make do on very little if need be - I know this for a fact, because I spent a large chunk of my youth under the relative poverty line.

                                          But the thing I always had that I could hold on to when life sucked was programming. I've been programming since before I knew it even could be a job.

                                          And it's also the one thing I've ever had in my life where I'm not just some disabled fuckup. The one thing that I could actually do that anyone actually valued.

                                          Seeing the value of that plummet to 0 in nearly no time at all has sent me reeling, and I don't know if I can get back up.

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