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  3. ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

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  • drgroftehauge@sigmoid.socialD drgroftehauge@sigmoid.social

    @CiaraNi Honestly Google Play is just so incredibly bad. Even if I know what I'm looking for it feels like it is actively trying to block me from getting to it.
    It is a far cry from the early days of smartphones where you could check app stores and find cool things.

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    @drgroftehauge Agreed. I was so busy trying to get away from Big Tech that I didn't think deeply about what I was moving to. So it's been a pleasant surprise to experience that every open-source thing I've switched to so far is better and calmer and simpler to use. Including F-Droid, instead of Google Play.

    #DanmarkSkifter

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    • drgroftehauge@sigmoid.socialD drgroftehauge@sigmoid.social

      @Kerplunk @CiaraNi I just use the AdGuard DNS. That blocks so much nonsense. Okay, I only use it on my phone but the laptop has browser plugins.
      dns.adguard-dns.com

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      @drgroftehauge @CiaraNi

      @Kerplunk @CiaraNi I just use the AdGuard DNS.

      Net Guard git can do a lot more, a donation directly to the developer is cheap and unlocks all features.

      The app can not only use blocklists against ads scams etc but more importantly control the applications and to some extent the operating system.

      When you see all the places your phone has been silently contacting and how often you will, as I was, be shocked.

      Setup takes a little effort but worth it.

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        @drgroftehauge Agreed. I was so busy trying to get away from Big Tech that I didn't think deeply about what I was moving to. So it's been a pleasant surprise to experience that every open-source thing I've switched to so far is better and calmer and simpler to use. Including F-Droid, instead of Google Play.

        #DanmarkSkifter

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        #228

        @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge I know I'm supposed to be the techie out of us, Ciara, but how do you actually switch to f-Droid?

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        • carstenboll@mstdn.dkC carstenboll@mstdn.dk

          @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge I know I'm supposed to be the techie out of us, Ciara, but how do you actually switch to f-Droid?

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          @CarstenBoll @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge first time you need to do it manually:

          You can download the apk from the official webpage (click on the button: download f-droid): https://f-droid.org/en/

          Then i suggest to open the apk from the file manager (to avoid giving install permissions to the browser), you will be asked for permissions with a scary page. After you install it you can remove the permits.

          You will have to approve the install permission for f-droid the first time you install something

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          • antoniovr@mastodon.socialA antoniovr@mastodon.social

            @CarstenBoll @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge first time you need to do it manually:

            You can download the apk from the official webpage (click on the button: download f-droid): https://f-droid.org/en/

            Then i suggest to open the apk from the file manager (to avoid giving install permissions to the browser), you will be asked for permissions with a scary page. After you install it you can remove the permits.

            You will have to approve the install permission for f-droid the first time you install something

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            @CarstenBoll @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge it can be installed directly from the browser but then I think it is advisable to remove the install permissions from the browser.

            If you consider this complex, i can try to record a video showing it

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            • antoniovr@mastodon.socialA antoniovr@mastodon.social

              @CarstenBoll @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge it can be installed directly from the browser but then I think it is advisable to remove the install permissions from the browser.

              If you consider this complex, i can try to record a video showing it

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              @antoniovr @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge nah, seems doable, didn't consider getting it from the browser. Doh.

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                @CiaraNi
                Jeg bruger allerede Proton produkterne og er godt tilfreds. Min browswe er Vivaldi, søgemaskine er Qwant, AI er Lumo. Så jeg er godt på vej vil jeg mene.
                Kigger på ny mobil, FairPhone, men har ikke pengene til den lige nu så det må desværre blive en ny Android fabrikeret i Asien.

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                • carstenboll@mstdn.dkC carstenboll@mstdn.dk

                  @antoniovr @CiaraNi @drgroftehauge nah, seems doable, didn't consider getting it from the browser. Doh.

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                  @CarstenBoll @antoniovr @drgroftehauge Ah, it seems that it was an advantage for me to lack knowledge. I didn't know what I didn't know, so I just found something on their website that worked, without thinking that it was unusual or that there were steps to consider. Hey, maybe that's the safe way to install something technical - do it with a blissful lack of knowledge, like falling when drunk, so nobody gets hurt.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    @CarstenBoll @antoniovr @drgroftehauge Ah, it seems that it was an advantage for me to lack knowledge. I didn't know what I didn't know, so I just found something on their website that worked, without thinking that it was unusual or that there were steps to consider. Hey, maybe that's the safe way to install something technical - do it with a blissful lack of knowledge, like falling when drunk, so nobody gets hurt.

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                    #234

                    @CiaraNi @antoniovr @drgroftehauge I mean, most of the time it's a question of reading what it says on the screen and making an educated guess.

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                    • carstenboll@mstdn.dkC carstenboll@mstdn.dk

                      @CiaraNi @antoniovr @drgroftehauge I mean, most of the time it's a question of reading what it says on the screen and making an educated guess.

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                      @CarstenBoll Oh I never stop to read what's on the screen. I just click stuff while humming. If that doesn't work, I click harder while cursing. Works most of the time!

                      @antoniovr @drgroftehauge

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        @CarstenBoll Oh I never stop to read what's on the screen. I just click stuff while humming. If that doesn't work, I click harder while cursing. Works most of the time!

                        @antoniovr @drgroftehauge

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                        #236

                        @CiaraNi @antoniovr @drgroftehauge hah. Well, if it works it works!

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                        • carstenboll@mstdn.dkC carstenboll@mstdn.dk

                          @CiaraNi @antoniovr @drgroftehauge hah. Well, if it works it works!

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                          @CarstenBoll 🙂

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                          • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

                            @Tutanota @gambolputte @CiaraNi

                            I admit that I don't really understand the Family option. I guess that the family option gives the possibility to add a family member to a subscription, so there is one "admin" for two (or more) persons.

                            But it costs the same as two separate subscriptions, so I personally don't really see the point.
                            It sounds good though, so is there perhaps another difference I am missing?

                            Edit: I found out that it gives a shared storage and a shared email possibility. Hmm...

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                            @Tutanota @gambolputte @CiaraNi I made an account for my wife a week or two ago. So far, after using Tuta Calendar a week or so, it works flawlessly.
                            It is very simular to gcal and can easily handle our busy scheduled week, with two or even 3 appointments at the same time.

                            The Android widget is a bit different from gcal, but it is clear and works well in my opinion. And the calender app is then just one click away.

                            Next up: moving shared Google Docs to... ?
                            #danmarkskifter

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech. March 20th is Big Switch Day. I’ve named my goal now. I’m already almost deMicrosofted, except for my photo archive. I moved to Libre & Tuta mail and have been purging photos as I await the release of Tuta drive. Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house, by March 20th. Then I’ll delete Microsoft. Then I’ll boast about it on the Fediverse.

                              #DanmarkSkifter

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                              @CiaraNi
                              > Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house

                              I've heard a thought that information which exists in just one copy can be considered unimportant. One copy can become no copies very quickly, so important things should be backed up, ideally in geographically separate locations.
                              I'd suggest to take a look at Hetzner StorageBox (just backup service) or StorageShare (managed Nextcloud, where you get your own storage, online photo album, contact sync, documents, etc).

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                              • dzm@mstdn.dkD dzm@mstdn.dk

                                @CiaraNi
                                > Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house

                                I've heard a thought that information which exists in just one copy can be considered unimportant. One copy can become no copies very quickly, so important things should be backed up, ideally in geographically separate locations.
                                I'd suggest to take a look at Hetzner StorageBox (just backup service) or StorageShare (managed Nextcloud, where you get your own storage, online photo album, contact sync, documents, etc).

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                                @dzm

                                "information which exists in just one copy can be considered unimportant"

                                I've just been thinking about this very idea, as it happens. I've been massively deleting files and photos, as I remove my stuff step-by-step from Microsoft's cloud. The process has made me think harder about what's important and what's not. The files I am removing from the cloud go on to my computer and also on to an external hard drive, and I think I'll do a further cull of those later. It's a useful process.

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                                • dzm@mstdn.dkD dzm@mstdn.dk

                                  @CiaraNi
                                  > Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house

                                  I've heard a thought that information which exists in just one copy can be considered unimportant. One copy can become no copies very quickly, so important things should be backed up, ideally in geographically separate locations.
                                  I'd suggest to take a look at Hetzner StorageBox (just backup service) or StorageShare (managed Nextcloud, where you get your own storage, online photo album, contact sync, documents, etc).

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                                  @dzm

                                  "I'd suggest to take a look at Hetzner StorageBox (just backup service) or StorageShare (managed Nextcloud, where you get your own storage, online photo album, contact sync, documents, etc)."

                                  Thank you for these recommendations. I have been waiting for Tuta drive as I already subscribe to Tuta mail and calendar, but there's still no sign of it so I am interested now in other European alternatives. The managed NextCloud one piques my interest. Tak - I appreciate the tips.

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                                  • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

                                    @Tutanota @gambolputte @CiaraNi I made an account for my wife a week or two ago. So far, after using Tuta Calendar a week or so, it works flawlessly.
                                    It is very simular to gcal and can easily handle our busy scheduled week, with two or even 3 appointments at the same time.

                                    The Android widget is a bit different from gcal, but it is clear and works well in my opinion. And the calender app is then just one click away.

                                    Next up: moving shared Google Docs to... ?
                                    #danmarkskifter

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                                    @Orewoet Good to know that itøs working well. I hope you can find an equally useful alternative to Google Docs 🤞🏻

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                                    • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

                                      @Tutanota @gambolputte @CiaraNi I made an account for my wife a week or two ago. So far, after using Tuta Calendar a week or so, it works flawlessly.
                                      It is very simular to gcal and can easily handle our busy scheduled week, with two or even 3 appointments at the same time.

                                      The Android widget is a bit different from gcal, but it is clear and works well in my opinion. And the calender app is then just one click away.

                                      Next up: moving shared Google Docs to... ?
                                      #danmarkskifter

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                                      @Orewoet

                                      One option could be
                                      https://cryptpad.fr/
                                      Should be easy to try out, unfortunately I don't have experience with it personally, but I've seen it recommended

                                      Cc
                                      @gambolputte @CiaraNi

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                                      • folfdk@helvede.netF folfdk@helvede.net

                                        @Orewoet

                                        One option could be
                                        https://cryptpad.fr/
                                        Should be easy to try out, unfortunately I don't have experience with it personally, but I've seen it recommended

                                        Cc
                                        @gambolputte @CiaraNi

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                                        @folfdk @gambolputte @CiaraNi Tak for the tip! That looks interesting, I had not heard of it yet. Bookmarked!

                                        I was thinking - but I haven't looked into it yet - that maybe there is some way to share a libre office file somehow. In that case some sort of cloud service could help. But it should be convenient and never confusing.
                                        Tuta says that they are working on a "tuta-drive" service - but I have no idea when that will be finished and what it will look like.

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                                        • orewoet@mas.toO orewoet@mas.to

                                          @folfdk @gambolputte @CiaraNi Tak for the tip! That looks interesting, I had not heard of it yet. Bookmarked!

                                          I was thinking - but I haven't looked into it yet - that maybe there is some way to share a libre office file somehow. In that case some sort of cloud service could help. But it should be convenient and never confusing.
                                          Tuta says that they are working on a "tuta-drive" service - but I have no idea when that will be finished and what it will look like.

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                                          @Orewoet

                                          You're welcome!

                                          That online LibreOffice experience is located here
                                          https://www.collaboraonline.com
                                          But I don't know much about it from a user perspective.

                                          @gambolputte @CiaraNi

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