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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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    #13

    @CiaraNi Well, it depends where in Germany you are because in some parts, they definitely pronounce that word with so many umlauts

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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      #14

      @CiaraNi

      acuté
      gràve
      circûmflex
      çedilla

      I see what you mean, ümlaut would work so much better

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      • hanscees@ieji.deH hanscees@ieji.de

        @CiaraNi now I am confused

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        #15

        @hanscees Sorry, that only made sense inside my head. And it's not even all umlauts. The New Yorker insists on persisting with the use of diaeresis - naïve, coöperation, etc

        Edited to add: I love your meme there

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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          #16

          @CiaraNi You will be pleased to hear about the Finnish word ääkkönen (usually used in the plural, ääkköset). Apparently nowadays accepted as an actual word, even if originally invented as a pun.

          https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ääkkönen

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          • czottmann@norden.socialC czottmann@norden.social

            @CiaraNi Well, it depends where in Germany you are because in some parts, they definitely pronounce that word with so many umlauts

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            #17

            @czottmann I need them to start spelling the word with so many umlauts too, please, because it feels wrong without them

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            • rvedotrc@tech.lgbtR rvedotrc@tech.lgbt

              @CiaraNi

              acuté
              gràve
              circûmflex
              çedilla

              I see what you mean, ümlaut would work so much better

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              #18

              @rvedotrc I mean, it's only right and proper. Like your other examples. The word umlaut needs to start practising what it preaches.

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                #19

                @CiaraNi
                And the word 'stød' isn't pronounced with a stød in it. What's with that?!

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  @hanscees Sorry, that only made sense inside my head. And it's not even all umlauts. The New Yorker insists on persisting with the use of diaeresis - naïve, coöperation, etc

                  Edited to add: I love your meme there

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                  #20

                  @CiaraNi I don't know it's because IAM autistic I like memes so much to do the wording for me. Anyway, I steal memes like a rat steals rings only to use them later to do my talking 😀
                  So the meme was stolen and not mine, but quite accurate

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                  • thtb@pixelfed.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #21
                    Respect for choosing typographical order over digital noise 🙂
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                    • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                      @CiaraNi You will be pleased to hear about the Finnish word ääkkönen (usually used in the plural, ääkköset). Apparently nowadays accepted as an actual word, even if originally invented as a pun.

                      https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ääkkönen

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                      #22

                      @tml

                      "ääkkönen: (computing) Any of the letters Å å, Ä ä or Ö ö, which are found in the Finnish alphabet, but not in the English one. "

                      I am indeed most pleased to hear about this word. Thank you.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                        #23

                        @CiaraNi The word 'fada' has entered the chat.

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                        • thtb@pixelfed.socialT thtb@pixelfed.social
                          Respect for choosing typographical order over digital noise 🙂
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                          #24

                          @Thtb 🙂

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                          • psneeze@mastodon.ieP psneeze@mastodon.ie

                            @CiaraNi The word 'fada' has entered the chat.

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                            #25

                            @psneeze This truth made me laugh actually aloud

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              @psneeze This truth made me laugh actually aloud

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                              #26

                              @CiaraNi 😁

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                @hanscees Sorry, that only made sense inside my head. And it's not even all umlauts. The New Yorker insists on persisting with the use of diaeresis - naïve, coöperation, etc

                                Edited to add: I love your meme there

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                                #27

                                @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

                                Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

                                But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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                                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                  @tml

                                  "ääkkönen: (computing) Any of the letters Å å, Ä ä or Ö ö, which are found in the Finnish alphabet, but not in the English one. "

                                  I am indeed most pleased to hear about this word. Thank you.

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                                  #28

                                  @CiaraNi @tml I am not 100% familiar with Finnish grammar 😉, but the unrivalled density of ümläute / umlauts in the inflection table is quite a sight: ääkköstä & ääkösiä in the partitive case. Can't get any better than thät!

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    @psneeze This truth made me laugh actually aloud

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                                    #29

                                    @CiaraNi @psneeze Went down a fun path - cause fada means 'long' and it elongates the vowels... got curious and now know umlaut apparently word roots are 'about sound'

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                                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                      #30

                                      @CiaraNi
                                      well, there's this: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%BCmlaut

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                                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

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                                        #31

                                        @CiaraNi Umlaut has a case of 'do as I say and not as I do'

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                                        • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                                          @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

                                          Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

                                          But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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                                          #32

                                          @tml @hanscees This is interesting! I freely admit that I just use the word Umlaut casually for any old two dots I see over any old letter, the way I say 'astronomical' for things that are not even that big.

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