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  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

    @Amorpheus @jwcph Agreed. That's true. The use of text further manipulates us

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    #118

    @CiaraNi @Amorpheus indeed - the deliberate deceit is what cements the harmful effect; the most insane things are possible, if unlikely & it's taking away our capacity for wonder. Remember this pic? That's real, however fake it looks & it's flippin amazing - we should enjoy those things, not immediately assume they're part of somebody's malice.

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    • elaterite@mastoart.socialE elaterite@mastoart.social

      @CiaraNi I'm not sure it's AI. It looks more like a poorly done composite to me. I would guess AI would do a better job, maybe? Totally agree with you on what AI has done to trust.

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      #119

      @elaterite It may well be manipulated, rather than generated from scratch. Someone in the thread says it's faked out of two separate photos. Either way, it appears to be fake. No verified original real photo source seems to be available. And either way, I am depressed at what all this has has done to trust, as you say. Especially the way it creates mistrust towards human photographers who share some fab photo and get asked 'is that AI?'

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        @Mary_Amado92 What a vicious circle we're in!

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        #120

        @CiaraNi I work with AI everyday. I'm so sick of it. I am a UX Designer and I work for a multinational. Now, using AI every single day, I feel like I'm working at Google or Microsoft training their models and not for the company I'm at. It's ridiculous... The pressure, the bad results it gives us, the hallucinations... I need to be in alert mode to check for errors and mistakes. That's my job now.

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        • shadowdancer@mstdn.socialS shadowdancer@mstdn.social

          @CiaraNi
          Divide & conquer. A classic and an all time favourite of faschists and tyrants.

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          #121

          @shadowdancer Yes

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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            #122

            @CiaraNi@mastodon.green

            cc
            @qualia@floofy.tech you were right

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            • N n0tsure@mastodon.social

              @CiaraNi It's the other way around. AI is one of the results of a broken social trust.

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              @N0tSure That too

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              • ahmetkkeles@mastodon.socialA ahmetkkeles@mastodon.social

                @CiaraNi I don’t remember the “artist” that was given credit for that image, but her “portfolio” was shared in a discussion about the image. The “portfolio” was full with AI images presented as normal photos.

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                #124

                @ahmetkkeles That seems likely. I did see some other images that seemed to not be her own work, several of which seemed to be AI, presented as real photos.

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                  #125

                  @CiaraNi my partner showing me something amazing or cute on Instagram/YouTube.
                  me: "That's AI"

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                  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                    @CiaraNi @Amorpheus indeed - the deliberate deceit is what cements the harmful effect; the most insane things are possible, if unlikely & it's taking away our capacity for wonder. Remember this pic? That's real, however fake it looks & it's flippin amazing - we should enjoy those things, not immediately assume they're part of somebody's malice.

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                    #126

                    @jwcph @Amorpheus Yes - this is a great example of what made me start moaning about this in the first place. It is upsetting to see fake images getting attention while the humans who took real amazing photos of real amazing moments of life on earth get asked if they used AI.

                    "We should enjoy those things, not immediately assume they're part of somebody's malice" - in an ideal world, yes. But the relentless AI deceit has left us in a situation where it's fair to wonder.

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                    • mary_amado92@mastodon.socialM mary_amado92@mastodon.social

                      @CiaraNi I work with AI everyday. I'm so sick of it. I am a UX Designer and I work for a multinational. Now, using AI every single day, I feel like I'm working at Google or Microsoft training their models and not for the company I'm at. It's ridiculous... The pressure, the bad results it gives us, the hallucinations... I need to be in alert mode to check for errors and mistakes. That's my job now.

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                      #127

                      @Mary_Amado92 It's relentless and exhausting and draining. I'm sorry you have to deal with it every day at work like this.

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                      • cdamian@rls.socialC cdamian@rls.social

                        @CiaraNi my partner showing me something amazing or cute on Instagram/YouTube.
                        me: "That's AI"

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                        #128

                        @cdamian Great example of the little ways in which AI interferes with little everyday joy. One person says 'hey, look at this!' wanting to share a moment of joy, and it immediately turns to dust because it wasn't real. We are left feeling tricked.

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                        • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                          @CiaraNi @Amorpheus indeed - the deliberate deceit is what cements the harmful effect; the most insane things are possible, if unlikely & it's taking away our capacity for wonder. Remember this pic? That's real, however fake it looks & it's flippin amazing - we should enjoy those things, not immediately assume they're part of somebody's malice.

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                          #129

                          @jwcph @CiaraNi Yup, works in both ways. Extrinsic evaluation misleads as it pleases. It is not the fake image that displeases, it is the knowledge of its implications.

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            @FrutigerAero00

                            "We need to start asking for link sources for this kind of photos and art"

                            I've unthinkingly developed the habit of looking for signs of human involvement in, for example, Alt Texts and available background information. An unnaturally perfect image with a Would Win Awards composition and style? I'll trust it if the tooter's other photos have a similar style or quality and if the Alt Text says something like 'our last Summer in Paris', and not just 'Sunset'.

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                            @CiaraNi Im still suspicious of alt text as a way to train ia into reading or cataloguing images, thats why i dont use it. I think resources are the best way 🤠

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.

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                              @CiaraNi it will only get worse, mayhem is around the corner

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                              • ralphbassfeld@swiss.socialR ralphbassfeld@swiss.social

                                @CiaraNi it’s the same with text. On Reddit, when you write a coherent comment or deeper analysis, people will accuse you of using AI.

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                                @RalphBassfeld

                                Use two spaces after a full stop, use Briticisms (such as "full stop" rather than "period"), and perhaps inject a gratuitous swear word. GenAI never does any of these things.

                                @CiaraNi

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                                • awws@mastodon.socialA awws@mastodon.social

                                  @CiaraNi @henryk Agreed. I don't know where people find the time or what exactly they get out of it doing it inside. Kinda sad, really.

                                  (though I guess there is also a part of me that *wanted* to believe someone had luckily caught a raindrop corwning a bird like that, cause it woulda been kinda awesome. 😊).

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                                  @awws

                                  I can think of a few highly speculative motivations:

                                  • Some platforms enable users to monetise popular accounts
                                  • Some accounts gather lots of followers and then shift to posting other, more contentious material
                                  • Maybe this is a way of gathering information about large numbers of followers?
                                  • Maybe the person who prompted the AI thinks that these images are legitimate art and just wants to show them off without the stigma of slop
                                  • Maybe someone is angling for a job as a professional photographer but doesn't have a portfolio and wants to build one the easy way

                                  As I say, this is all just speculation.

                                  @CiaraNi @henryk

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                                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                    @jwcph @Amorpheus Yes - this is a great example of what made me start moaning about this in the first place. It is upsetting to see fake images getting attention while the humans who took real amazing photos of real amazing moments of life on earth get asked if they used AI.

                                    "We should enjoy those things, not immediately assume they're part of somebody's malice" - in an ideal world, yes. But the relentless AI deceit has left us in a situation where it's fair to wonder.

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                                    @CiaraNi @Amorpheus Yes, we have to, but the AI-fueled deceit is forcing us into a skepticism overload that can very easily make us cynical & suspicious.

                                    Just earlier today I had to verify this pic & honestly I'm still not entirely sure of it (see the thread) - but it's clearly the sort of thing where, before AI, I would not assume that anyone would go through the trouble of photoshopping it, so I would have just taken it at its pretty cool face value...

                                    https://mastodon.social/@AwetTesfaiesus/116452226201997678

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