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  3. definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself.

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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

    dries@mastodon.greenD paulk@writing.exchangeP ln@social.linux.pizzaL maunzcache@ruhr.socialM unsightly3055@universeodon.comU 10 Replies Last reply
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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

      dries@mastodon.greenD This user is from outside of this forum
      dries@mastodon.greenD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @nixCraft this tweet is not real right?

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      • dries@mastodon.greenD dries@mastodon.green

        @nixCraft this tweet is not real right?

        nixcraft@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @dries it is real https://x.com/awscloud/status/2064449711155589396

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        • dries@mastodon.greenD dries@mastodon.green

          @nixCraft this tweet is not real right?

          kleisli@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @dries it's always a good idea to check the sources, but in this case it is real https://x.com/awscloud/status/2064449711155589396 @nixCraft

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

            paulk@writing.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @nixCraft Reminds me of this article:
            https://www.online.uc.edu/blog/artificial-intelligence-ai-benefits.html

            Benefits of ai.

            Each article: "It could."
            Not 'it does", or "it can".
            It could.

            Nope.

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

              ln@social.linux.pizzaL This user is from outside of this forum
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              @nixCraft the tide is turning

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

                maunzcache@ruhr.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @nixCraft From the company that brought you: "Move fast and break things" and "Every day is day one"

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

                  unsightly3055@universeodon.comU This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @nixCraft feels like a trap, I bet they were like, "any engagement is good engagement" or something like that.

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

                    tgg303@cyberplace.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @nixCraft AI is a 4 yaer old child, it knows *stuff* but you wouldn't want it making you your lunch.

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                    • maunzcache@ruhr.socialM maunzcache@ruhr.social

                      @nixCraft From the company that brought you: "Move fast and break things" and "Every day is day one"

                      canleaf@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @maunzCache @nixCraft Hire and foster the best. i fuckimg hate this company.

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                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                        definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

                        gustl@metalhead.clubG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @nixCraft

                        > but writing code isn't the bottleneck ...

                        ... not to mention having the necessary clarity of what to actually write. In my experience the actualy programming better not be the bulk of the work. Yet nothing changes, the programmers writing tons of code where (and are i guess) very often regarded as very productive; Just as the ones writing code nobody understands. For some this seems to still hold for programming machines.

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

                          themipper@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @nixCraft it has always been about consistency and simple architecture with the least amount of dependencies. The fewest lines of logic staying within the guardrails of the architecture to achieve the goal.

                          Changing the architecture should be a big deal with a lot of thought put into it.

                          The LLMs have no memory and no consistency. They start new with every request. Every output can introduce a new architecture or add new dependencies in form of frameworks or libraries.

                          ... Unmaintainable

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

                            raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @nixCraft
                            Also design.
                            Review/test/rewrite is made worse by LLM use.

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              definitely a refreshing dose of reality check from AWS in the era of AI assisted code development ๐Ÿ˜‚ they are saying this after pushing AI hard at Amazon followed by massive outages at AWS itself. The reality is AI can spit out 5000 lines of code in seconds, but writing code isn't the bottleneck reviewing, debugging, and maintaining it is. You always need humans to double check everything because it is not reliable enough to do anything on its own

                              fenixmaster@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @nixCraft The normal programmer/coder knew that already before AI was invented and introduced. We made AI, we know AI. Problems started when they want to make money with AI.

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