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  3. I am sure this lovely lady didn't mean it this way but, for those of us who have lived in poor places, the fetishising of handwashing comes off as obscene privilege.

I am sure this lovely lady didn't mean it this way but, for those of us who have lived in poor places, the fetishising of handwashing comes off as obscene privilege.

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  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I am sure this lovely lady didn't mean it this way but, for those of us who have lived in poor places, the fetishising of handwashing comes off as obscene privilege.

    There are women - yes, they're always women - all over the world who either don't have electricity or can't afford a washing machine. And they routinely spend a day a week handwashing a family's laundry.

    I must say, I find poverty cosplay deeply disturbing

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dax_h52KmRj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

    bumblefish@mastodon.scotB juliette@mastodon.greenJ hko@mastodon.socialH irene@discuss.systemsI mab_813@fedi.atM 7 Replies Last reply
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    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

      I am sure this lovely lady didn't mean it this way but, for those of us who have lived in poor places, the fetishising of handwashing comes off as obscene privilege.

      There are women - yes, they're always women - all over the world who either don't have electricity or can't afford a washing machine. And they routinely spend a day a week handwashing a family's laundry.

      I must say, I find poverty cosplay deeply disturbing

      https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dax_h52KmRj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

      bumblefish@mastodon.scotB This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @Remittancegirl I think a lot of the tradwife thing is poverty cosplay, the modern version of wearing a hair shirt I suppose. Glorification of suffering. I don't get it.

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      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

        I am sure this lovely lady didn't mean it this way but, for those of us who have lived in poor places, the fetishising of handwashing comes off as obscene privilege.

        There are women - yes, they're always women - all over the world who either don't have electricity or can't afford a washing machine. And they routinely spend a day a week handwashing a family's laundry.

        I must say, I find poverty cosplay deeply disturbing

        https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dax_h52KmRj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

        juliette@mastodon.greenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @Remittancegirl The overlap between the CottageCore aesthetic (that I love) and poverty cosplay is very disturbing. Thank you for calling it out.

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        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

          I am sure this lovely lady didn't mean it this way but, for those of us who have lived in poor places, the fetishising of handwashing comes off as obscene privilege.

          There are women - yes, they're always women - all over the world who either don't have electricity or can't afford a washing machine. And they routinely spend a day a week handwashing a family's laundry.

          I must say, I find poverty cosplay deeply disturbing

          https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dax_h52KmRj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

          hko@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @Remittancegirl The production quality of the video makes the poverty cosplay aspect particularly wild. The whole thing feels extremely movie-like - which I'm sure is the point.

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          • bumblefish@mastodon.scotB bumblefish@mastodon.scot

            @Remittancegirl I think a lot of the tradwife thing is poverty cosplay, the modern version of wearing a hair shirt I suppose. Glorification of suffering. I don't get it.

            remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @Bumblefish I don't think she was attempting to glorify suffering. I don't think she's suffering at all. But she's romanticising a particular chore that has been the bane of women's existence from time immemorial.

            And I'm sure she's found some meditative escape in it. But the decadent privilege implicit in it is... well, obscene to me.

            hko@mastodon.socialH darc_fantom@cupoftea.socialD http_error_418@hachyderm.ioH edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE rozeboosje@masto.aiR 5 Replies Last reply
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            • hko@mastodon.socialH hko@mastodon.social

              @Remittancegirl The production quality of the video makes the poverty cosplay aspect particularly wild. The whole thing feels extremely movie-like - which I'm sure is the point.

              remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @hko Little house on the prairie stuff.

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              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                @Bumblefish I don't think she was attempting to glorify suffering. I don't think she's suffering at all. But she's romanticising a particular chore that has been the bane of women's existence from time immemorial.

                And I'm sure she's found some meditative escape in it. But the decadent privilege implicit in it is... well, obscene to me.

                hko@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @Remittancegirl There is definitely something decadent in romanticizing "simplicity" - not relying on "modernity".

                Which just brought the anti-vax aesthetic to my mind: Being far enough removed from things like polio that it seems cute to flirt with bringing them back.

                Not exactly the same thing, but at least to my mind, there is some vague linkage.

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                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                  @Bumblefish I don't think she was attempting to glorify suffering. I don't think she's suffering at all. But she's romanticising a particular chore that has been the bane of women's existence from time immemorial.

                  And I'm sure she's found some meditative escape in it. But the decadent privilege implicit in it is... well, obscene to me.

                  darc_fantom@cupoftea.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @Remittancegirl @Bumblefish
                  And TradWife / CottageCore often seems to be associated, almost like a gateway drug, with a whole bunch of 'traditional' right wing anti-feminist values.

                  FFS who would want to go back to hand-washing clothes 🙄. I remember the mangle, washboard etc... at my Grandmothers.
                  So to any romantic CottageCore picture add a filter if winter cold; grey and wet.

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                  • hko@mastodon.socialH hko@mastodon.social

                    @Remittancegirl There is definitely something decadent in romanticizing "simplicity" - not relying on "modernity".

                    Which just brought the anti-vax aesthetic to my mind: Being far enough removed from things like polio that it seems cute to flirt with bringing them back.

                    Not exactly the same thing, but at least to my mind, there is some vague linkage.

                    remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @hko I agree. While it isn't the same thing, there is a kind of logical progression.

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                    • juliette@mastodon.greenJ juliette@mastodon.green

                      @Remittancegirl The overlap between the CottageCore aesthetic (that I love) and poverty cosplay is very disturbing. Thank you for calling it out.

                      remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @juliette I absolutely get the CottageCore thing myself.

                      But wouldn't it be more creative to reinvent that aesthetic in a way that didn't glamourise grinding poverty?

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                      • darc_fantom@cupoftea.socialD darc_fantom@cupoftea.social

                        @Remittancegirl @Bumblefish
                        And TradWife / CottageCore often seems to be associated, almost like a gateway drug, with a whole bunch of 'traditional' right wing anti-feminist values.

                        FFS who would want to go back to hand-washing clothes 🙄. I remember the mangle, washboard etc... at my Grandmothers.
                        So to any romantic CottageCore picture add a filter if winter cold; grey and wet.

                        cablest@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @DaRC_Fantom @Remittancegirl @Bumblefish Those feckn washboards would skin yr knuckles. My Nan's hands, joints too swollen to get her wedding ring off...

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                        • hko@mastodon.socialH hko@mastodon.social

                          @Remittancegirl The production quality of the video makes the poverty cosplay aspect particularly wild. The whole thing feels extremely movie-like - which I'm sure is the point.

                          realn2s@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @hko @Remittancegirl
                          The faucet also breaks the context

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                          • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                            @Bumblefish I don't think she was attempting to glorify suffering. I don't think she's suffering at all. But she's romanticising a particular chore that has been the bane of women's existence from time immemorial.

                            And I'm sure she's found some meditative escape in it. But the decadent privilege implicit in it is... well, obscene to me.

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                            #13

                            @Remittancegirl @Bumblefish I'm wondering if it is in a way a display of wealth. "Look at me, I can afford to throw an entire day at a task most people spend an hour or so on"

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                            • http_error_418@hachyderm.ioH http_error_418@hachyderm.io

                              @Remittancegirl @Bumblefish I'm wondering if it is in a way a display of wealth. "Look at me, I can afford to throw an entire day at a task most people spend an hour or so on"

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                              #14

                              @http_error_418 Yes!!! You put your finger on something I was having trouble expressing. Also, I wonder how much she spends on the hand cream to stave off chapping? @Bumblefish

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                              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                I am sure this lovely lady didn't mean it this way but, for those of us who have lived in poor places, the fetishising of handwashing comes off as obscene privilege.

                                There are women - yes, they're always women - all over the world who either don't have electricity or can't afford a washing machine. And they routinely spend a day a week handwashing a family's laundry.

                                I must say, I find poverty cosplay deeply disturbing

                                https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dax_h52KmRj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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                                #15

                                @Remittancegirl lol that is why I found the book Yesteryear to be enjoyable.

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                                • realn2s@infosec.exchangeR realn2s@infosec.exchange

                                  @hko @Remittancegirl
                                  The faucet also breaks the context

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                                  #16

                                  @realn2s as does the multiple kilometre trek with water. @hko

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                                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                    I am sure this lovely lady didn't mean it this way but, for those of us who have lived in poor places, the fetishising of handwashing comes off as obscene privilege.

                                    There are women - yes, they're always women - all over the world who either don't have electricity or can't afford a washing machine. And they routinely spend a day a week handwashing a family's laundry.

                                    I must say, I find poverty cosplay deeply disturbing

                                    https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dax_h52KmRj/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

                                    mab_813@fedi.atM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @Remittancegirl

                                    I remember my grandmother telling me how happy she was when she got a washing mashine...

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                                    • mab_813@fedi.atM mab_813@fedi.at

                                      @Remittancegirl

                                      I remember my grandmother telling me how happy she was when she got a washing mashine...

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                                      #18

                                      @Mab_813 this, 1000 times. If there was any piece of tech in the last 200 years that genuinely improved women’s lives, it was the washing machine

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                                      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                        @realn2s as does the multiple kilometre trek with water. @hko

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                                        #19

                                        @Remittancegirl @realn2s @hko Also she should be mixing ashes from her fireplace with water to create alkali and use that instead of commercial detergent, which would then make her hands extremely dry and irritated!

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                                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                          @Mab_813 this, 1000 times. If there was any piece of tech in the last 200 years that genuinely improved women’s lives, it was the washing machine

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                                          #20

                                          @Remittancegirl @Mab_813 Especially because early manual washing machines were also used to induce abortions, as I learned in the Viennese Museum of contraception and abortion.

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