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  • brennpunktua@mastodon.socialB brennpunktua@mastodon.social

    @_elena they didn't even remove the name "Bluesky" on various parts of the website 🤣🤣🤣

    https://stage.wsocial.eu

    #WSocial

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    #70

    @BrennpunktUA 😂 @_elena

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    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

      @0xtero there are allegedly links to the Swedish right (that would explain the requirement of IDs to post). Still researching the claims

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      #71

      @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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      • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

        @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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        #72

        @_elena no idea if it's right-wing connected (wouldn't surprise me) and I can't be bothered to look further - it already looks like a rich-boy club scheme to make money out of activism. And I guess their headlines from Davos around this social network of theirs were formed similarly. Bleh.

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        • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

          @_elena Had a quick look. Seems the domain is registered by a Swedish company WeDontHaveTime (who seems to run wedonthavetime.org). The company is owned by a foundation, so no idea who the real owner are (the foundation owns US based company of a same name as well). This guy is their CEO https://www.forbes.com/sites/ingmarrentzhog/ - the company has 9 employees and revenue of 15-20 million SEK yearly (loses twice the revenue yearly -17M SEK in 2024).

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          @0xtero thank you for the info! Yes I had seen the non-profit info but not the revenue. Wow.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            @0xtero thank you for the info! Yes I had seen the non-profit info but not the revenue. Wow.

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            #74

            @_elena here's the company info (sorry, in Swedish) https://www.allabolag.se/foretag/wedonthavetime-ab-publ/stockholm/informationskonsulter-kommunikationskonsulter/2KGW5D6I5YFD4

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            • 0xtero@ohai.social0 0xtero@ohai.social

              @_elena here's the company info (sorry, in Swedish) https://www.allabolag.se/foretag/wedonthavetime-ab-publ/stockholm/informationskonsulter-kommunikationskonsulter/2KGW5D6I5YFD4

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              #75

              @0xtero thanks!!!

              can someone explain to me how is it possible to have such terrible profit margins but then "solidity = very good"?

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                @0xtero thanks!!!

                can someone explain to me how is it possible to have such terrible profit margins but then "solidity = very good"?

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                @_elena They have cash in the bank basically.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).

                  The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).

                  Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?

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                  #77

                  @_elena a social created to be an alternative or a copy is already a failure.
                  We have just to wait for, #X is melting down as #tesla

                  https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/threads-continues-to-add-users-as-x-sees-ongoing-declines/809940/

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                  • ed@livellosegreto.itE ed@livellosegreto.it

                    @_elena I think that we need more "why/how you should join the Fediverse" rather than "why you should not use platform X, Y, W".

                    We (as in: the internet) spoke loudly about why not using certain type of softwares and platform and it didn't really made a substantial difference.

                    I think we need to focus on bringing people (and make them stay) here rather than scare them about another software or platform.

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                    @ed @_elena this. 100% this.

                    Elena, je comprends ton exaspération mais pour répondre à la question, tu te fatigues pour rien. Surtout maintenant.

                    Au bout d'une vingtaine d'année de militantisme sur ces sujets. J'en conclue qu'il est vain de dissuader les gens aller sur ces plateformes. Tous les arguments qu'on mobilise, en paeticuler celui sur la vie privée et la surveillance de masse n'ont pas d'effet. Les gens sensibles à ces arguments sont déjà parti. C'est une minorité.

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                      @ed @_elena this. 100% this.

                      Elena, je comprends ton exaspération mais pour répondre à la question, tu te fatigues pour rien. Surtout maintenant.

                      Au bout d'une vingtaine d'année de militantisme sur ces sujets. J'en conclue qu'il est vain de dissuader les gens aller sur ces plateformes. Tous les arguments qu'on mobilise, en paeticuler celui sur la vie privée et la surveillance de masse n'ont pas d'effet. Les gens sensibles à ces arguments sont déjà parti. C'est une minorité.

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                      #79

                      @_elena si aujourd'hui, vu le niveau de merdification de twitter et meta, les gens y sont toujours c'est qu'on ne les aura pas avec des arguments politiques. Ton documentaire aussi insiste beaucoup sur l'argument de la surveillance/nos données. C'est vain.

                      Nous devons nous concentrer sur l'émergence d'alternatives et sur créer une meilleure expérience et se focaliser sur le contenu proposé qui doit être plus intéressant.

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                      • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

                        @ed @_elena this. 100% this.

                        Elena, je comprends ton exaspération mais pour répondre à la question, tu te fatigues pour rien. Surtout maintenant.

                        Au bout d'une vingtaine d'année de militantisme sur ces sujets. J'en conclue qu'il est vain de dissuader les gens aller sur ces plateformes. Tous les arguments qu'on mobilise, en paeticuler celui sur la vie privée et la surveillance de masse n'ont pas d'effet. Les gens sensibles à ces arguments sont déjà parti. C'est une minorité.

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                        #80

                        @lutindiscret @ed I hear you but I still want to at least write an article about it collecting all the evidence I found. They had TERRIBLE security in place and are asking for government IDs to join. I don't feel like staying silent on this. Taking 2 hours to write a blog post is nothing... the press about it has been all P.R. and I want to do the work that lazy journalists didn't do

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                        • lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.comL lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com

                          @_elena si aujourd'hui, vu le niveau de merdification de twitter et meta, les gens y sont toujours c'est qu'on ne les aura pas avec des arguments politiques. Ton documentaire aussi insiste beaucoup sur l'argument de la surveillance/nos données. C'est vain.

                          Nous devons nous concentrer sur l'émergence d'alternatives et sur créer une meilleure expérience et se focaliser sur le contenu proposé qui doit être plus intéressant.

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                          #81

                          @_elena moi je focalise sur l'ux/ui, les artistes/créateur/artisans qui doivent pouvoir venir y promouvoir leur activité et faire des ventes pour vivre (@aemarielle), les pro notamment faire circuler toutes les offres d'emploi et les recherches, la recherche scientifique (icanhazpdf), le milieu des coopératives, la création de jeuw vidéos. Voilà càd créer un réseau avec de la valeur, de l'utilité concrète pour les gens.

                          Convaincre de quitter X, W ou Meta, c'est perdu. Faut proposer mieux.

                          3/3

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