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  3. So far nothing is being done to manage the flood of #AISlop on the #Internet.

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  • madeindex@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    So far nothing is being done to manage the flood of #AISlop on the #Internet.

    The single way to "kind of" reduce it is by looking at the source (long established / people you know or that have a large following / are trusted).

    Of course there is always change and that's a good thing, but this fundamentally changes things.

    Will the internet as we know die because of #AI slop?

    #LLM #artificialintelligence #artificial #digital #online #content #tech #technology #web #it #socialmedia #problem

    jwcph@helvede.netJ stephan324ppm@mastodon.no2nd.earthS mardor@ruhr.socialM madeindex@mastodon.socialM squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS 7 Replies Last reply
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    • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

      So far nothing is being done to manage the flood of #AISlop on the #Internet.

      The single way to "kind of" reduce it is by looking at the source (long established / people you know or that have a large following / are trusted).

      Of course there is always change and that's a good thing, but this fundamentally changes things.

      Will the internet as we know die because of #AI slop?

      #LLM #artificialintelligence #artificial #digital #online #content #tech #technology #web #it #socialmedia #problem

      jwcph@helvede.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @madeindex The useful internet died with enshittification - but yes, the zombie of it currently representing most people's experience of The Internet™️ is dying even more due to AI slop.

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      • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

        So far nothing is being done to manage the flood of #AISlop on the #Internet.

        The single way to "kind of" reduce it is by looking at the source (long established / people you know or that have a large following / are trusted).

        Of course there is always change and that's a good thing, but this fundamentally changes things.

        Will the internet as we know die because of #AI slop?

        #LLM #artificialintelligence #artificial #digital #online #content #tech #technology #web #it #socialmedia #problem

        stephan324ppm@mastodon.no2nd.earthS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @madeindex Some innovation will be needed to distinguish slop from genuine info. This will be driven by a forthcoming crisis of the LLMs. May the bubble burst!

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        • stephan324ppm@mastodon.no2nd.earthS stephan324ppm@mastodon.no2nd.earth

          @madeindex Some innovation will be needed to distinguish slop from genuine info. This will be driven by a forthcoming crisis of the LLMs. May the bubble burst!

          madeindex@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @stephan324ppm

          I think Google's algorithm is the only one that might still be able to distinguish artificial and "real" content, however #Google fully embraces #AI, so they will probably never share it.

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          • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

            So far nothing is being done to manage the flood of #AISlop on the #Internet.

            The single way to "kind of" reduce it is by looking at the source (long established / people you know or that have a large following / are trusted).

            Of course there is always change and that's a good thing, but this fundamentally changes things.

            Will the internet as we know die because of #AI slop?

            #LLM #artificialintelligence #artificial #digital #online #content #tech #technology #web #it #socialmedia #problem

            mardor@ruhr.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mardor@ruhr.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @madeindex The Internet as we knew it already died when adservers came up. It just becomes a bit deader now.

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            • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

              So far nothing is being done to manage the flood of #AISlop on the #Internet.

              The single way to "kind of" reduce it is by looking at the source (long established / people you know or that have a large following / are trusted).

              Of course there is always change and that's a good thing, but this fundamentally changes things.

              Will the internet as we know die because of #AI slop?

              #LLM #artificialintelligence #artificial #digital #online #content #tech #technology #web #it #socialmedia #problem

              madeindex@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
              madeindex@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              Fixed a minor typographical error in the poll and all votes got reset, is that normal?!

              uc@mastodon.scotU jwcph@helvede.netJ 2 Replies Last reply
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              • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                So far nothing is being done to manage the flood of #AISlop on the #Internet.

                The single way to "kind of" reduce it is by looking at the source (long established / people you know or that have a large following / are trusted).

                Of course there is always change and that's a good thing, but this fundamentally changes things.

                Will the internet as we know die because of #AI slop?

                #LLM #artificialintelligence #artificial #digital #online #content #tech #technology #web #it #socialmedia #problem

                squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @madeindex I think in many ways it has died in the sense of no longer the pages we used to visit are useful.

                The good news is that the new generation of web has already started. Right now there is almost an alternative to every mainstream platform.

                I believe that due to these new platforms not announced on main platforms (remember when people announced that they were leaving for Mastodon and they tried to prevent other users from seeing it?) Its hard to reach all of the new target audience

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                • mardor@ruhr.socialM mardor@ruhr.social

                  @madeindex The Internet as we knew it already died when adservers came up. It just becomes a bit deader now.

                  madeindex@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  RE: https://helvede.net/@jwcph/116204079349322325

                  @mardor haha
                  @jwcph and you should probably become friends 😉

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                  • squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS squarescarletcougar@mastodon.social

                    @madeindex I think in many ways it has died in the sense of no longer the pages we used to visit are useful.

                    The good news is that the new generation of web has already started. Right now there is almost an alternative to every mainstream platform.

                    I believe that due to these new platforms not announced on main platforms (remember when people announced that they were leaving for Mastodon and they tried to prevent other users from seeing it?) Its hard to reach all of the new target audience

                    squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @madeindex we might need to build our own web search engine. I was reading about the indie web but facing the issue of "but how do I find these websites" situation

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                    • squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS squarescarletcougar@mastodon.social

                      @madeindex we might need to build our own web search engine. I was reading about the indie web but facing the issue of "but how do I find these websites" situation

                      madeindex@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @squareScarletCougar But once everyone moves here, won't the massive amount of #AISlop move with them?

                      Right now this is an uninteresting target, as it's relatively small.

                      Yeah we need to promote it way more, today I actually began work on a subreddit called /r/fedipropaganda 😉

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                      • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                        Fixed a minor typographical error in the poll and all votes got reset, is that normal?!

                        uc@mastodon.scotU This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @madeindex

                        Yes. Any changes wipe out the vote as you could have changed questions and so on.

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                        • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                          Fixed a minor typographical error in the poll and all votes got reset, is that normal?!

                          jwcph@helvede.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @madeindex My experience too, so... Yes? Makes sense; it prevents users from manipulating poll results.

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                          • uc@mastodon.scotU uc@mastodon.scot

                            @madeindex

                            Yes. Any changes wipe out the vote as you could have changed questions and so on.

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                            #13

                            @uc makes sense, thank you for explaining 🙂

                            Just weird that it's only poll votes not shares/likes you know?

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                            • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                              @madeindex My experience too, so... Yes? Makes sense; it prevents users from manipulating poll results.

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                              #14

                              @jwcph You always learn something new here! Seems good, however you can still kind of manipulate it by resetting it, if it doesn't go in the direction you might want 🤷

                              @uc

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                              • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                                @uc makes sense, thank you for explaining 🙂

                                Just weird that it's only poll votes not shares/likes you know?

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                                #15

                                @madeindex

                                But everyone who shared receives a notification that you have edited the original post.

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                                • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                                  @squareScarletCougar But once everyone moves here, won't the massive amount of #AISlop move with them?

                                  Right now this is an uninteresting target, as it's relatively small.

                                  Yeah we need to promote it way more, today I actually began work on a subreddit called /r/fedipropaganda 😉

                                  squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @madeindex maybe but I feel the main difference is the platform and the users. There is no algorithm or agenda pushing AI slop to our faces, people usually out it quickly.

                                  Will it ever go away? I don't think so. Since years ago before GPT there was already slop being pushed now we are facing the wave of tossing everything to the wall and see what it sticks.

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                                  • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                                    @squareScarletCougar But once everyone moves here, won't the massive amount of #AISlop move with them?

                                    Right now this is an uninteresting target, as it's relatively small.

                                    Yeah we need to promote it way more, today I actually began work on a subreddit called /r/fedipropaganda 😉

                                    squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @madeindex Pinterest is a great example. No one likes it now, its completely flooded with slop. The platform will either double down AND die or it will ban AI. Meanwhile users will migrate to different platforms scattered to whatever they will find. Just like the web back in the day where you find a website and stay on it

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                                    • squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS squarescarletcougar@mastodon.social

                                      @madeindex maybe but I feel the main difference is the platform and the users. There is no algorithm or agenda pushing AI slop to our faces, people usually out it quickly.

                                      Will it ever go away? I don't think so. Since years ago before GPT there was already slop being pushed now we are facing the wave of tossing everything to the wall and see what it sticks.

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                                      #18

                                      @squareScarletCougar yeah, I remember article spinning and the likes, it just became much better.

                                      #Google / #Bing are big time pushing #AISlop for sure. So many top results are obviously completely #Ai generated and maintained 😉

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                                      • madeindex@mastodon.socialM madeindex@mastodon.social

                                        @squareScarletCougar But once everyone moves here, won't the massive amount of #AISlop move with them?

                                        Right now this is an uninteresting target, as it's relatively small.

                                        Yeah we need to promote it way more, today I actually began work on a subreddit called /r/fedipropaganda 😉

                                        squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @madeindex which is the way to do it! thank you for your dedication to the cause ✊

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                                        • squarescarletcougar@mastodon.socialS squarescarletcougar@mastodon.social

                                          @madeindex Pinterest is a great example. No one likes it now, its completely flooded with slop. The platform will either double down AND die or it will ban AI. Meanwhile users will migrate to different platforms scattered to whatever they will find. Just like the web back in the day where you find a website and stay on it

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                                          #20

                                          @squareScarletCougar yeah, also feels to me like #Pinterest is pretty much useless now.

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