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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

    Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

    https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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    #197

    @sundogplanets I swear if we lose our night sky for *AI* I'm going to lose it

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    • irina@critter.cafeI irina@critter.cafe

      @the_wub @sundogplanets spacex already deploys 20-60 satellites per launch - and this is the same delusional management who think they can turn around launches in a day or less, so the bottleneck would (in their eyes) be building the satellites themselves

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      #198

      @irina @the_wub @sundogplanets
      But we already know - what goes up *will* come down (and in an unknown and uncontrolled manner too).

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        I feel like this is a good time for everyone to go read "More Everything Forever" by @adambecker.bsky.social because that completely unrealistic and awful techbro mentality/religion the only way to explain this FCC filing (and that book explains this very clearly!)

        Time to go outside and listen to NZ birds as the sun comes up, because fuck SpaceX.

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        #199

        @sundogplanets

        Where does the FCC get off in thinking it can make decisions that affect the entire planet and all humankind?

        There's a tui in the tree outside loudly proclaiming "Ripe Plums".

        @adambecker.bsky.social

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          #200

          @kwayk42 @dougwade @sundogplanets
          Giant silly putty katamaris ... in space!

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          • c_dan4th@mstdn.socialC c_dan4th@mstdn.social

            @sundogplanets Surely someone has done the math here: roughly 10^1.5 satellites per launch. Roughly 10^2 launches per year. Average satellite lifetime of (optimistically) 10^1 years… Is 10^6 satellites even possible? (never mind orbital intersections, etc.)

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            #201

            @sundogplanets Just doing this math says there’s a maximum of 30,000 operational Starlinks at any given time unless they’re ramping up to way more launches/year, more satellites/launch, or less shitty satellites. None of these seems super likely.

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            • c_dan4th@mstdn.socialC c_dan4th@mstdn.social

              @sundogplanets Just doing this math says there’s a maximum of 30,000 operational Starlinks at any given time unless they’re ramping up to way more launches/year, more satellites/launch, or less shitty satellites. None of these seems super likely.

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              #202

              @c_dan4th @sundogplanets

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              • ohmu@social.seattle.wa.usO ohmu@social.seattle.wa.us

                @kwayk42 @dougwade @sundogplanets
                Giant silly putty katamaris ... in space!

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                #203

                @ohmu @dougwade @sundogplanets

                KATAMARI DAMACI

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                  Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                  https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                  #204

                  @sundogplanets I am not an astronaut, but it was my understanding one of the biggest problems in space was radiating waste heat.

                  I am a computer engineer, and I definitely know one of the biggest problems of data centers is that they generate a lot of waste heat.

                  Sending ONE satellite into space to be a data center would be the stupidest idea I'd heard all week.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                    Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                    https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                    #205

                    @sundogplanets somebody stop this nonsense. This will irreversibly deprive our species of land astronomy and the chance of ever leaving this planet.

                    Maybe the reason why there aren't any aliens is because they all have Elons.

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                    • isaackuo@spacey.spaceI isaackuo@spacey.space

                      @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social I have three non-techbro mentality/religion reasons for this:

                      1) Distract from Tesla's poor earnings
                      2) Distract from the Epstein files
                      3) Bezos says he's going to launch zillions of data center satellites so Musk just wants to nab scamee money for it first

                      But yeah, also Musk is a moron.

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                      #206

                      @isaackuo @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy

                      Less of a moron if he's just going for the money grab, and could not care less about the planet. Which is the version of Musk that my brain envisions.

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                      • benjaminklein@mastodon.nuB benjaminklein@mastodon.nu

                        @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social brilliant book and well worth the read. Every time I hear someone mentioning one of these tech bros being intelligent I want a copy to throw at their head. Maybe we need to start explaining to politicians that if LEO is a shooting gallery it means no more GPS, do they remember what it was like navigating the world with paper maps, because we are going back there.

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                        #207

                        @BenjaminKlein @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social The GPS satellites are in Medium Earth Orbit, far above LEO satellites.

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          What the actual fuck. It's not April Fools Day, right? This is real?! Fuck you, SpaceX. Maybe this will help regulators realize how fucking shortsighted companies' plans in orbit are?

                          Surely the FCC won't rubber-stamp-approve this one??... ONE MILLION STARLINKS FUUUUCCCKKKKKK

                          https://au.pcmag.com/networking/115649/spacex-eyes-1-million-satellites-for-orbital-data-center-push

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                          #208

                          @sundogplanets There must be something else going on. This cannot be what it seems.

                          Anyone with a modicum of experience knows the arguments in the FCC filing are garbage; beyond the enormous launch costs, space-grade solar is far more expensive than on the ground, and cooling is ghastly hard because you're in a vacuum.

                          Buzzword-based value pump for the merger? Jurisdiction shopping? Mental illness?

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                          • alisonw@fedimon.ukA alisonw@fedimon.uk

                            @sundogplanets
                            You can't have effective data centres in space though!
                            https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/

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                            #209

                            @AlisonW There’s a reason those of us who worry about on-board processing spend so much time getting our code super stripped down and do all the heavy lifting on ground systems. Sheesh!

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                            • isaackuo@spacey.spaceI isaackuo@spacey.space

                              @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social I have three non-techbro mentality/religion reasons for this:

                              1) Distract from Tesla's poor earnings
                              2) Distract from the Epstein files
                              3) Bezos says he's going to launch zillions of data center satellites so Musk just wants to nab scamee money for it first

                              But yeah, also Musk is a moron.

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                              #210

                              @isaackuo @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social

                              A subhuman moron. The only people who are dumber than him are all of those who believed him, bought his crap or invested in him. He is of the exact same ilk as Trump. A big mouth and zero substance.

                              America has a thing for big mouths. The Mar a Largo lips 👄 are a nod to that.

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                              • ericfielding@mastodon.socialE ericfielding@mastodon.social

                                @BenjaminKlein @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social The GPS satellites are in Medium Earth Orbit, far above LEO satellites.

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                                #211

                                @EricFielding @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social yes, but they need to replaced every 10-15 years.

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                                  THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                                  #212

                                  @sundogplanets

                                  That…isn’t what that means.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                                    THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                                    #213

                                    @sundogplanets JFC these people know nothing about physics, do they.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                                      THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                                      #214

                                      @sundogplanets

                                      Yeah I thought this was related to Kessler Syndrome as well... TIL

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                                      • benjaminklein@mastodon.nuB benjaminklein@mastodon.nu

                                        @EricFielding @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social yes, but they need to replaced every 10-15 years.

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                                        #215

                                        @BenjaminKlein @sundogplanets @adambecker.bsky.social Yes, the MEO GPS satellites, GEO satellites, anything going to the Moon or Mars, etc. have to pass through LEO. Maybe Elon should think about that.

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step toward becoming a Kardashev II-level situation"

                                          THIS IS IN AN FCC FILING NOT A SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK I'M DEAD

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                                          #216

                                          @sundogplanets Not necessarily. Keith Lofstrom's original http://server-sky.com/ design? No problem.

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