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  3. ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

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  • booksandjohn@mastodonapp.ukB booksandjohn@mastodonapp.uk

    @CiaraNi should say that I am not in onedrive and never have been <smug>

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    #188

    @BooksandJohn Wise move!

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      Before I could pick my 2026 goal for #DanmarkSkifter, I did a digital status. I was mildly surprised when I saw my 2025 digital changes together. I looked at the list and thought: ’Tell me you hang out in the Fediverse without telling me you hang out in the Fediverse.’

      From Outlook to Tuta
      From Office to Libre
      From MS Authenticator to Ente Authenticator
      From Google Play to F-Droid
      From Spotify to AntennaPod
      From Firefox to Vivaldi
      From DuckDuckGo to NoAIDuckDuckGo
      And I bought a back-up drive.

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      #189

      I've added a new 2026 Digital Resolution to my 'Denmark switches from Big Tech' goals.

      I had already switched from Patreon to Steady. Thanks to @JohanEmpa for making that possible after he added Steady as a Mastodon.green payment option.

      Now my Microsoft subscription is the only thing left on PayPal and I'm almost deMicrosofted. So I'll be cancelling, not renewing, that. So now I commit to deleting my PayPal account. Today. Inspired by @oldrup, who just did this.

      #DanmarkSkifter

      ciarani@mastodon.greenC hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH shom@gts.shom.devS johnlorimer@mastodon.socialJ 4 Replies Last reply
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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        I've added a new 2026 Digital Resolution to my 'Denmark switches from Big Tech' goals.

        I had already switched from Patreon to Steady. Thanks to @JohanEmpa for making that possible after he added Steady as a Mastodon.green payment option.

        Now my Microsoft subscription is the only thing left on PayPal and I'm almost deMicrosofted. So I'll be cancelling, not renewing, that. So now I commit to deleting my PayPal account. Today. Inspired by @oldrup, who just did this.

        #DanmarkSkifter

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        #190

        Done

        #DanmarkSkifter

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          I've added a new 2026 Digital Resolution to my 'Denmark switches from Big Tech' goals.

          I had already switched from Patreon to Steady. Thanks to @JohanEmpa for making that possible after he added Steady as a Mastodon.green payment option.

          Now my Microsoft subscription is the only thing left on PayPal and I'm almost deMicrosofted. So I'll be cancelling, not renewing, that. So now I commit to deleting my PayPal account. Today. Inspired by @oldrup, who just did this.

          #DanmarkSkifter

          hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #191

          @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

          I use #wise instead PayPal.
          https://wise.com/ ☺️

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            Done

            #DanmarkSkifter

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            #192

            @CiaraNi 💪

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            • borisentiu@mastodon.socialB borisentiu@mastodon.social

              @CiaraNi 💪

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              #193

              @borisentiu I'm working on the 'every little step helps you get there' principle!

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              • hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.de

                @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

                I use #wise instead PayPal.
                https://wise.com/ ☺️

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                #194

                @hpmaennicke A European alternative - ah. I hadn't heard of it. Thanks for the tip.

                @JohanEmpa @oldrup

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  @borisentiu I'm working on the 'every little step helps you get there' principle!

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                  #195

                  @CiaraNi That's even a rather big step! Am still moving slowly in regard to payment, so your success is inspiring.

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                  • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                    I've added a new 2026 Digital Resolution to my 'Denmark switches from Big Tech' goals.

                    I had already switched from Patreon to Steady. Thanks to @JohanEmpa for making that possible after he added Steady as a Mastodon.green payment option.

                    Now my Microsoft subscription is the only thing left on PayPal and I'm almost deMicrosofted. So I'll be cancelling, not renewing, that. So now I commit to deleting my PayPal account. Today. Inspired by @oldrup, who just did this.

                    #DanmarkSkifter

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                    #196

                    @CiaraNi found a few things with the steady branding, but in guessing it's this: https://steady.page/? I'd like recommend an alternative to creators I support on Patreon. But Steady's credit card fees + 10% commission seems quite steep.
                    I use https://liberapay.com/ wherever that's an option. I also like being able to have the monthly support charged as a lumpsum to reduce fees further. But unfortunately they don't have an ad-free RSS link for podcast functionality, which is my biggest Patreon spend.

                    @JohanEmpa @oldrup

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                    • hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.de

                      @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

                      I use #wise instead PayPal.
                      https://wise.com/ ☺️

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                      #197

                      @hpmaennicke Just to say as marketing material from these companies often blatantly lies: your own bank might very well be cheaper.

                      I just checked a couple of options with Wise between Denmark (DKK) and euro accounts in the Netherlands and Germany. In all of them my bank is cheaper. Same the other way around (euro to DKK).

                      @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

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                      • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                        @hpmaennicke Just to say as marketing material from these companies often blatantly lies: your own bank might very well be cheaper.

                        I just checked a couple of options with Wise between Denmark (DKK) and euro accounts in the Netherlands and Germany. In all of them my bank is cheaper. Same the other way around (euro to DKK).

                        @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

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                        #198

                        @Pepijn @hpmaennicke Good to know. My own intention after deleting my Paypal is to stick with my bank card. I used PayPal for the bare minimum anyway. I want fewer companies, fewer apps etc in my life generally at this point.

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                        • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                          @hpmaennicke Just to say as marketing material from these companies often blatantly lies: your own bank might very well be cheaper.

                          I just checked a couple of options with Wise between Denmark (DKK) and euro accounts in the Netherlands and Germany. In all of them my bank is cheaper. Same the other way around (euro to DKK).

                          @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

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                          #199

                          @Pepijn @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

                          I have been using Wise for more than two years for international payments, e.g., to Brazil.
                          Neither PayPal, my bank, nor Banco do Brasil, for example, can compete with it.
                          Exchange rates and fees are significantly cheaper.
                          Payments within Europe in euros cost nothing. No fees, nothing. And it's all in real time.
                          I even get really good daily interest on my credit balance, which many banks don't offer.
                          So, for me, it's the best choice.

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                          • shom@gts.shom.devS shom@gts.shom.dev

                            @CiaraNi found a few things with the steady branding, but in guessing it's this: https://steady.page/? I'd like recommend an alternative to creators I support on Patreon. But Steady's credit card fees + 10% commission seems quite steep.
                            I use https://liberapay.com/ wherever that's an option. I also like being able to have the monthly support charged as a lumpsum to reduce fees further. But unfortunately they don't have an ad-free RSS link for podcast functionality, which is my biggest Patreon spend.

                            @JohanEmpa @oldrup

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                            #200

                            @shom Good to know. I don't know any of the ins and outs about Steady, or for that matter Patreon or other equivalents. I did notice that when I switched from Patreon to Steady for my monthly Mastodon.green membership, the price suddenly went down a little. I hadn't noticed what PayPal was taking on top. So Steady is cheaper for me making payments. I don't know how it works for the person receiving the payment.

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                            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                              @shom Good to know. I don't know any of the ins and outs about Steady, or for that matter Patreon or other equivalents. I did notice that when I switched from Patreon to Steady for my monthly Mastodon.green membership, the price suddenly went down a little. I hadn't noticed what PayPal was taking on top. So Steady is cheaper for me making payments. I don't know how it works for the person receiving the payment.

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                              #201

                              @CiaraNi thanks for sharing, always good to have values aligned options 💛

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                              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                Done

                                #DanmarkSkifter

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                                #202

                                @CiaraNi Good to see!👍🏽

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                                • hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.de

                                  @Pepijn @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

                                  I have been using Wise for more than two years for international payments, e.g., to Brazil.
                                  Neither PayPal, my bank, nor Banco do Brasil, for example, can compete with it.
                                  Exchange rates and fees are significantly cheaper.
                                  Payments within Europe in euros cost nothing. No fees, nothing. And it's all in real time.
                                  I even get really good daily interest on my credit balance, which many banks don't offer.
                                  So, for me, it's the best choice.

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                                  #203

                                  @hpmaennicke International payments between euro (sepa) accounts are always free if the banks were to do that transaction for free as a national transfer as well. It's a right you have and normal consumer banks follow that.

                                  Between Danish kroner and euro Wise is simply more expensive than my Danish and Dutch banks. It's the same experience with similar services. At least Wise doesn't appear to be blatantly advertising about it anymore.

                                  @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

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                                  • theappletree@ruhr.socialT theappletree@ruhr.social

                                    @CiaraNi Good to see!👍🏽

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                                    @theappletree 👍🏻

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                                    • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

                                      @hpmaennicke International payments between euro (sepa) accounts are always free if the banks were to do that transaction for free as a national transfer as well. It's a right you have and normal consumer banks follow that.

                                      Between Danish kroner and euro Wise is simply more expensive than my Danish and Dutch banks. It's the same experience with similar services. At least Wise doesn't appear to be blatantly advertising about it anymore.

                                      @CiaraNi @JohanEmpa @oldrup

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                                      #205

                                      @Pepijn @VQuaschning
                                      @oldrup

                                      Euro transfers with Wise are always free, with no bank fees and even interest on your balance. It’s the cheapest option for transactions to Brazil, handling all taxes. In Brazil, users earn 10% interest on their credit balance (taxes are paid directly to authorities).
                                      As I said, it depends on your personal commitment.

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                                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                        @Pepijn @hpmaennicke Good to know. My own intention after deleting my Paypal is to stick with my bank card. I used PayPal for the bare minimum anyway. I want fewer companies, fewer apps etc in my life generally at this point.

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                                        @CiaraNi For the past decade I've only ever had two payment accounts (one each in euro & DKK) and have never been unable to pay.

                                        I stopped looking for alternatives. Last time I did was with a company named Transferwise. They also pretended to be "cheaper than your bank", doing a lot of ads etc.. After the first transaction I figured I'd do an actual check. Aaand it would've cheaper with my bank: their online calculator thingy literally lied about what my bank would've charged me.

                                        @hpmaennicke

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                                        • hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.deH hpmaennicke@social.anoxinon.de

                                          @Pepijn @VQuaschning
                                          @oldrup

                                          Euro transfers with Wise are always free, with no bank fees and even interest on your balance. It’s the cheapest option for transactions to Brazil, handling all taxes. In Brazil, users earn 10% interest on their credit balance (taxes are paid directly to authorities).
                                          As I said, it depends on your personal commitment.

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                                          #207

                                          >As I said, it depends on your personal commitment.

                                          No, it depends on facts 🙂 It's a simple fact that often this company is not the cheapest, even though they claim to be. And I'm sure that in other situations they are the cheapest and their claim is correct.

                                          It's only fair that people know that.

                                          @hpmaennicke @VQuaschning @oldrup

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