Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.
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You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.
@GossiTheDog one handed, on your phone
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@GossiTheDog someone needs to catch negligence charges for endangering the food supply chain of France by putting all the grocery store thermostats on the public internet for absolutely no fucking reason. we are too old for this behavior
@0xabad1dea @GossiTheDog yes. this problem was extremely easy to anticipate and the only thing that ever caused people to get complacent was normalcy bias.
we like your way of putting it, the only possible excuse the people who left it open like that have is that they fucking act like children, and that's no excuse at all.
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You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.
@GossiTheDog It's pretty consistent with most IP-enabled, quasi-industrial operational technology that I encounter, and demonstrates a lack of imagination on the part of OEM threat assessments, and a lack of competence in their security engineering.
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Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.
The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.
Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.
@GossiTheDog And who authorized that setting is still working? At any level higher than toilet cleaning?
Nothing to object with toilet cleaning, I do it myself. I'd like to know if that person is so underskilled as it looks, from my perspective of toilet cleaning, which actually stands out in the comparison. -
Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.
The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.
Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.
@GossiTheDog Aight, got it. Now, who’s gonna hook me up with that Jersey City delivery list? I’m tryna score 70% off all the frozen stuff before exp.date faint. C’mon, do me a solid, will ya?
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I’ve seen some breathless reporting in the media about the situation in France saying it’s the biggest cyber attack ever and the result of a swarm of Agentic AI bots.
Reality: no. It’s a complete lack of security controls and negligent product development by the vendor.
@GossiTheDog This PR trick has been working so far, but if they keep overstepping their bounds this much, eventually they're going to tick off enough people enough that they start actually bringing in lawyers and realize "wait a minute, this is just a stunt. We can actually sue them."
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Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.
The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.
Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.
not the first time for Danfoss. They had a 06/06/2006 midnight incident, where ALL of their BRC-2000 controllers worldwide were programmed to hammer the motor contactors to burn up the AC motors. This company and their "security" is legendary...
They had a notice about this on their website for a few years, but likely did a document purge to prevent the endless subpoenas in the future...
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@GossiTheDog someone needs to catch negligence charges for endangering the food supply chain of France by putting all the grocery store thermostats on the public internet for absolutely no fucking reason. we are too old for this behavior
@0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social The company that sold it, if the instructions failed to underline the importance of not doing so or changing the credentials (or made it impossible to change them) should also have such charges.
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Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.
The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.
Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.
@GossiTheDog Well according to everyone who expresses that they have more skill than me, the more often the password changes the more unhackable it is. The only thing more secure than "daily" is "hourly".
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This seems fine.Who knew food safety and refrigeration were right up there with power generation and sewer treatment in the attack surface and threat to civil society? Man. The hits just keep on comin'. 🥴
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@GossiTheDog someone needs to catch negligence charges for endangering the food supply chain of France by putting all the grocery store thermostats on the public internet for absolutely no fucking reason. we are too old for this behavior
@0xabad1dea @GossiTheDog I've advocated in the past for this type of liability; more broadly phrased, dereliction of a public trust should be indictable on the rationale that between the hacker and the large corporate defender, one of these is much easier to deter.
The flagrantly negligent defender in whom public trust is placed also profits from their misdeeds. So the idea would be to fine e.g. banks who do things like lay off all their security teams and then get hacked.
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You can literally recreate it with a single line bash command to apply to the internet in a loop. A write-up on how to defrost the fridges appeared online in August. It’s a zero-skill thing to pull off, I wrote the bash script while having a shit.
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Regarding the Danfoss fridge thing doing the rounds in the media - there’s several thousand of them that are directly internet facing.
The username is admin and the password changes every day automatically to.. the current date.
Every single one is like this. You can just log in and change the temperature. Anybody can do it, easily scriptable.
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