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  3. So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

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  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

    @acm_redfox And here is a really great place to do that - because the tech bros can't shut the fediverse down.

    tasket@mas.toT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #75

    @Remittancegirl I would agree if fedi didn't have so many UX pitfalls.

    If one is technically inclined, then clicking on a fedi link and landing on a foreign instance website doesn't seem too bad... we hopscotch right over that inconvenience. But most other people won't realize what happened and they will be confused/angry that Mastodon has "forgot" their login & won't let them access functions etc. This happens because the ActivityPub spec is incomplete; it should have defined a protocol handler.

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    • tasket@mas.toT tasket@mas.to

      @Remittancegirl I would agree if fedi didn't have so many UX pitfalls.

      If one is technically inclined, then clicking on a fedi link and landing on a foreign instance website doesn't seem too bad... we hopscotch right over that inconvenience. But most other people won't realize what happened and they will be confused/angry that Mastodon has "forgot" their login & won't let them access functions etc. This happens because the ActivityPub spec is incomplete; it should have defined a protocol handler.

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #76

      @tasket If people cannot deal with that, do you really think they're going to have the staying power to triumph over authoritarianism?

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      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

        So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

        So... here's the thing:

        DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

        The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

        keremgoart@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #77

        @Remittancegirl 💯💯💯

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        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

          @tasket If people cannot deal with that, do you really think they're going to have the staying power to triumph over authoritarianism?

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          #78

          @Remittancegirl What is the point of offering people a tech adventure (chaos)? If something presents itself as broken, then in the users' minds its broken; they'll move on.

          Fedi culture is broken, too. The same people telling me the above is OK UX are also saying that teaching users to be aware of domain name spelling (with https) is a big infosec No-no. A tech culture that bases itself on disparate domains but doesn't think users should have literacy about domain names probably deserves to die out. (Keeping in mind that fedi is like 85% tech pros & enthusiasts.)

          Bluesky "solved" this problem by making all links point to bsky.app. This makes it centralized, but bsky's backers don't really want decen.

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          • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

            So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

            So... here's the thing:

            DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

            The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

            fuckitall@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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            fuckitall@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #79

            @Remittancegirl

            This.

            1,000,000 x this.

            The billionaires ARE the kings.

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            • donray@mastodon.onlineD donray@mastodon.online

              @Remittancegirl @the_gneech

              This is what I was thinking, too:

              “This reeks of people, of organizers who do not really understand what they are up against at all.” — Madeleine Morris

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              #80

              @donray @Remittancegirl @the_gneech

              Consider that the organizers DO understand and the whole thing is a whitewash designed to harmlessly vent steam.

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              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                @acm_redfox And here is a really great place to do that - because the tech bros can't shut the fediverse down.

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                #81

                @Remittancegirl @acm_redfox perhaps not the tech bros, but the US government could possibly shut down quite a bit of the Fediverse the same way they took on Autistici/Inventati, by revoking domains and designating server operators as terrorists.

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                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                  So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                  So... here's the thing:

                  DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                  The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                  markwyner@mas.toM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #82

                  @Remittancegirl this! Every time. They keep playing in the yard of the enemy. It makes me so confused.

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                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                    So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                    So... here's the thing:

                    DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                    The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                    phoenixserenity@beige.partyP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #83

                    @Remittancegirl I repeatedly tried to warn fellow activist organizers to move off all META & Tiktok for organizing because of this exact same reason.

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                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                      So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                      So... here's the thing:

                      DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                      The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                      jcastroarnaud@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #84

                      @Remittancegirl Time to find alternatives. Chat and video calls can be done with apps using XMPP: https://xmpp.org/ Quick updates via Mastodon, of course. The resistance must go on!

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                      • phoenixserenity@beige.partyP phoenixserenity@beige.party

                        @Remittancegirl I repeatedly tried to warn fellow activist organizers to move off all META & Tiktok for organizing because of this exact same reason.

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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #85

                        @PhoenixSerenity @Remittancegirl 👍👍

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                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                          So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                          So... here's the thing:

                          DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                          The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                          edebill@wandering.shopE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #86

                          @Remittancegirl our local No Kings organization does all its organizing via Signal. Outreach on social media, organizing and planning on Signal. I’m sure some local groups get it wrong, though.

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                          • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                            So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                            So... here's the thing:

                            DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                            The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                            pouakai@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            pouakai@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #87

                            @Remittancegirl
                            folk never worried about censorship until it's too late...

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                            • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                              So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                              So... here's the thing:

                              DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                              The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                              saptopith@retro.pizzaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              saptopith@retro.pizza
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #88

                              @Remittancegirl thank you that was the first thing i thought of. also unreal how much Black activism came before to pioneer and hash this out, and we'll just ... never learn, I guess. racism just has usa coming and going.

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                              • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                So... here's the thing:

                                DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                                retrosponge@kind.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #89

                                @Remittancegirl Yeah, but the last events I remember seeing people saying how great the parking was and they were able to get home early and also one of them had a really great DJ. You know, important things when you're trying to overthrow a fucking dictator...

                                Less DJs and parking, more fucking guillotines.

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                                • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                  So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                  So... here's the thing:

                                  DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                  The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                                  djmitche@fosstodon.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  djmitche@fosstodon.org
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #90

                                  @Remittancegirl this didn't slow down our local nk4 one bit. It's a distributed system.

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                                  • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                    So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                    So... here's the thing:

                                    DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                    The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                                    kelleynnn@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    kelleynnn@mas.to
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #91

                                    @Remittancegirl Have you, or has anyone you know, attended in person local Indivisible meetings?

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                                    • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                      So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                      So... here's the thing:

                                      DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                      The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                                      kelleynnn@mas.toK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      kelleynnn@mas.to
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #92

                                      @Remittancegirl Blocked at least five accounts on this thread so far

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                                      • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                        So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                        So... here's the thing:

                                        DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                        The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                                        dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        dalias@hachyderm.io
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #93

                                        @Remittancegirl I think this is going to backfire. It's not like messing with the logistic organizing of entirely symbolic protest events is going to break movements or anything. But it will radicalize some previously non-radical folks to the idea that big tech is their enemy.

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                                        • remittancegirl@mstdn.socialR remittancegirl@mstdn.social

                                          So apparently all the coordination, planning and communications for organising No Kings events on Instagram have disappeared and the account admins have been suspended.

                                          So... here's the thing:

                                          DON'T PLAN YOUR REVOLUTION ON THE KING'S BLACKBOARD.

                                          The fact that organisers are depending on the availability of a platform run by any of the tech bros... well, it makes me think you aren't a terribly effective opposition.

                                          taylorono@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          taylorono@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #94

                                          @Remittancegirl
                                          As a revolutionary once said

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