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  3. Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software.

Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.

    art_codesmith@toot.cafeA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tante Question: what if you name it?

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.

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      @tante The similarities to the concept of "unprotected intercourse" are more than striking here.

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      • art_codesmith@toot.cafeA art_codesmith@toot.cafe

        @tante Question: what if you name it?

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        @art_codesmith You should be forced into getting therapy

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.

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          @tante If the people doing that would understand security they would be very upset.

          I'm not worried about the competent people, I'm worried about the majority that doesn't even consider why giving access is a bad idea.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            @art_codesmith You should be forced into getting therapy

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            @tante So um... funny thing I read on LinkedIn today... #DHH

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.

              tomw@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @tante I agree BUT even if you run it on a Mac Mini or VPS or whatever without giving it your own data or accounts, it can still go and bother other internet users, for example by emailing them, sending spurious Github pull requests, making phone calls (!), the recent case of one making a hostile blog post about a named person, and so on.

              Even if you make it not a danger to you, it remains a danger to others.

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              • tomw@mastodon.socialT tomw@mastodon.social

                @tante I agree BUT even if you run it on a Mac Mini or VPS or whatever without giving it your own data or accounts, it can still go and bother other internet users, for example by emailing them, sending spurious Github pull requests, making phone calls (!), the recent case of one making a hostile blog post about a named person, and so on.

                Even if you make it not a danger to you, it remains a danger to others.

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                @tomw @tante The thing becomes then, why would you run it without giving it access to your accounts? The whole point is that it can Do Stuff For You.

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                • tomw@mastodon.socialT tomw@mastodon.social

                  @tante I agree BUT even if you run it on a Mac Mini or VPS or whatever without giving it your own data or accounts, it can still go and bother other internet users, for example by emailing them, sending spurious Github pull requests, making phone calls (!), the recent case of one making a hostile blog post about a named person, and so on.

                  Even if you make it not a danger to you, it remains a danger to others.

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                  @tomw @tante We desperately need a few incidents where their operators are identified and legally held responsible.

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                  • larsmb@mastodon.onlineL larsmb@mastodon.online

                    @tomw @tante We desperately need a few incidents where their operators are identified and legally held responsible.

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                    @larsmb @tomw they are identified: By OpenAI's and Meta's and Anthropic's HR department to offer them jobs

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      @larsmb @tomw they are identified: By OpenAI's and Meta's and Anthropic's HR department to offer them jobs

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                      @tante @tomw I didn't mean the one or two people who had them vibed, but the masses who run and operate them even more recklessly.

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.

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                        @tante Unfit… or “security expert at Meta” 😂

                        https://www.golem.de/news/bei-sicherheitsexpertin-ki-agent-leert-unerwartet-ganzen-e-mail-posteingang-2602-205762.html

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          Basically: If you run OpenClaw connected to any meaningful system you are not fit to design, program or run any kind of software. That disregard for security and quality should leave a black mark on you for many years.

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                          @tante more like OpenClown, huh.

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