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  3. I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much.

I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much. They are trying to provide expensive, dangerous "help" for problems that already have better, cheaper, less destructive processes in place.

    The one thing this article fails to mention is not only could the light from orbit go out at any second, it would be constantly moving, making all the shadows slowly swing around the light source's motion. I've never done any search and rescue, but this seems extremely unhelpful.

    https://darksky.org/news/a-rehearsal-for-space-mirrors-leaves-california-rescuers-unconvinced/

    pepijn@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    They also casually mention how even the marginal gain is based on manipulation as "Reflect Orbital placed white, glossy boxes about four feet long in the search area, rather than the weighted rescue manikins teams often use in training.".

    And clouds.

    @sundogplanets

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    • lucyruthe@mastodon.socialL lucyruthe@mastodon.social

      @sundogplanets

      I'm no expert on these topics, but I keep thinking about how a giant space mirror is at risk of impact with the constantly increasing satellites. Isn't it all just a recipe for kessler syndrome?

      sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @lucyruthe The mirror is just mylar, so it's not too bad debris-wise. It will get shredded by micrometeorites and micro-debris fairly quickly, and be even less coherent, which isn't great.

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      • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

        They also casually mention how even the marginal gain is based on manipulation as "Reflect Orbital placed white, glossy boxes about four feet long in the search area, rather than the weighted rescue manikins teams often use in training.".

        And clouds.

        @sundogplanets

        sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        @Pepijn Yeah. They never mention clouds...

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much. They are trying to provide expensive, dangerous "help" for problems that already have better, cheaper, less destructive processes in place.

          The one thing this article fails to mention is not only could the light from orbit go out at any second, it would be constantly moving, making all the shadows slowly swing around the light source's motion. I've never done any search and rescue, but this seems extremely unhelpful.

          https://darksky.org/news/a-rehearsal-for-space-mirrors-leaves-california-rescuers-unconvinced/

          oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @sundogplanets

          They're trying to find a use for the shitty product they had the gall to bring to production... they are trying to fix a problem they created with poor results, in any other time this would be an immediate "cease production, fire all engineers" type of situation but since we're in the "techbrocene", here we are.

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          • pepijn@mastodon.onlineP pepijn@mastodon.online

            They also casually mention how even the marginal gain is based on manipulation as "Reflect Orbital placed white, glossy boxes about four feet long in the search area, rather than the weighted rescue manikins teams often use in training.".

            And clouds.

            @sundogplanets

            knud@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @Pepijn @sundogplanets

            It also fundamentally limits "natural disaster" lighting basically to earthquakes. Volcano? Ash. Hurricane and extreme rains? Clouds. So quakes with clear skies. And then marginally helpful, when manipulating the experience, minus the moving lights. It's just absurd.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much. They are trying to provide expensive, dangerous "help" for problems that already have better, cheaper, less destructive processes in place.

              The one thing this article fails to mention is not only could the light from orbit go out at any second, it would be constantly moving, making all the shadows slowly swing around the light source's motion. I've never done any search and rescue, but this seems extremely unhelpful.

              https://darksky.org/news/a-rehearsal-for-space-mirrors-leaves-california-rescuers-unconvinced/

              heluecht@pirati.caH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10
              @sundogplanets I still don't understand their business model and why anyone would fund them.
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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much. They are trying to provide expensive, dangerous "help" for problems that already have better, cheaper, less destructive processes in place.

                The one thing this article fails to mention is not only could the light from orbit go out at any second, it would be constantly moving, making all the shadows slowly swing around the light source's motion. I've never done any search and rescue, but this seems extremely unhelpful.

                https://darksky.org/news/a-rehearsal-for-space-mirrors-leaves-california-rescuers-unconvinced/

                rbmath@mathstodon.xyzR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #11

                @sundogplanets if only there were some way to provide light portably on earth without using a satellite... It could flash and make light... Perhaps we could call it a portable illuminator! Having lights like this would make travel at night possible, imagine if we could put them on the front of cars!

                Too bad such technology is impossible.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much. They are trying to provide expensive, dangerous "help" for problems that already have better, cheaper, less destructive processes in place.

                  The one thing this article fails to mention is not only could the light from orbit go out at any second, it would be constantly moving, making all the shadows slowly swing around the light source's motion. I've never done any search and rescue, but this seems extremely unhelpful.

                  https://darksky.org/news/a-rehearsal-for-space-mirrors-leaves-california-rescuers-unconvinced/

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                  #12

                  @sundogplanets
                  all the supposed useful cases they come up with are just alibis, pretexts to make govt and people swallow their shit.

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much. They are trying to provide expensive, dangerous "help" for problems that already have better, cheaper, less destructive processes in place.

                    The one thing this article fails to mention is not only could the light from orbit go out at any second, it would be constantly moving, making all the shadows slowly swing around the light source's motion. I've never done any search and rescue, but this seems extremely unhelpful.

                    https://darksky.org/news/a-rehearsal-for-space-mirrors-leaves-california-rescuers-unconvinced/

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                    #13

                    @sundogplanets I thought this was a post about Elite Dangerous for a second there

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much. They are trying to provide expensive, dangerous "help" for problems that already have better, cheaper, less destructive processes in place.

                      The one thing this article fails to mention is not only could the light from orbit go out at any second, it would be constantly moving, making all the shadows slowly swing around the light source's motion. I've never done any search and rescue, but this seems extremely unhelpful.

                      https://darksky.org/news/a-rehearsal-for-space-mirrors-leaves-california-rescuers-unconvinced/

                      michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #14

                      @sundogplanets

                      Vladimir Syromyatnikov: "We could use orbiting mirrors to illuminate towns in Siberia in the winter."

                      1990s Siberian towns: "We have electrical lights over here."

                      Evidently not much has changed in the last 30 years...

                      (Syromyatnikov at least admitted that his designs were originally for solar sails.)

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        I hate Reflect Orbital so very very much. They are trying to provide expensive, dangerous "help" for problems that already have better, cheaper, less destructive processes in place.

                        The one thing this article fails to mention is not only could the light from orbit go out at any second, it would be constantly moving, making all the shadows slowly swing around the light source's motion. I've never done any search and rescue, but this seems extremely unhelpful.

                        https://darksky.org/news/a-rehearsal-for-space-mirrors-leaves-california-rescuers-unconvinced/

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                        #15

                        @sundogplanets

                        they intend to leave the people with nothing, not even the stars above

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                        • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                          @sundogplanets

                          Vladimir Syromyatnikov: "We could use orbiting mirrors to illuminate towns in Siberia in the winter."

                          1990s Siberian towns: "We have electrical lights over here."

                          Evidently not much has changed in the last 30 years...

                          (Syromyatnikov at least admitted that his designs were originally for solar sails.)

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                          #16

                          @sundogplanets

                          Also, paging @ai6yr for a professional search-and-rescue opinion.

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                          • michael_w_busch@mastodon.onlineM michael_w_busch@mastodon.online

                            @sundogplanets

                            Also, paging @ai6yr for a professional search-and-rescue opinion.

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                            #17

                            @michael_w_busch @sundogplanets 😡

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                            • lucyruthe@mastodon.socialL lucyruthe@mastodon.social

                              @sundogplanets

                              I'm no expert on these topics, but I keep thinking about how a giant space mirror is at risk of impact with the constantly increasing satellites. Isn't it all just a recipe for kessler syndrome?

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                              #18

                              @lucyruthe
                              I just Followed you 🚀

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