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  3. If I play a YouTube video for ~3 seconds and leave, it becomes marked as completely watched, with the red line extending all the way under the thumbnail.

If I play a YouTube video for ~3 seconds and leave, it becomes marked as completely watched, with the red line extending all the way under the thumbnail.

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  • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

    My occam razor would be something like “two systems inside YT not talking to one another”: the page load saves the video as watched, and the playback progress sends the playhead position to server. If you nope out of the video quickly, the second one never fires, and the system interprets that as “completely watched.”

    I don’t know if it’s just the UI layer (just shown this way), or system layer (actually recorded this way), and if there is a difference.

    But why do some people not see it…

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    #34

    @mwichary My guess was always (for the yeaaars this has been happening) that its a (bad) UI decision of "the playback progress for 1-3 seconds is too short, and we can't lie by saying it was 20% watched or something, so we'll just fill it up as a flag meaning 'somewhat watched' ".
    I wanna say a good solution might be to make the progress always fill up with at least 20%, but a user might feel like an error happened if the indicator says they're 20% through an hour-long video, and it starts at 3s

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    • kbell@mastodon.socialK kbell@mastodon.social

      @mwichary My guess was always (for the yeaaars this has been happening) that its a (bad) UI decision of "the playback progress for 1-3 seconds is too short, and we can't lie by saying it was 20% watched or something, so we'll just fill it up as a flag meaning 'somewhat watched' ".
      I wanna say a good solution might be to make the progress always fill up with at least 20%, but a user might feel like an error happened if the indicator says they're 20% through an hour-long video, and it starts at 3s

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      #35

      @kbell Wait, too short in what sense?

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      • brundaged@mastodon.socialB brundaged@mastodon.social

        @mwichary I probably turned on "experimental features" or such years ago and forgot about it.

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        #36

        @brundaged There might also be a big variety of clients and experiences. It’s a big ecosystem at this point.

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        • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

          If I play a YouTube video for ~3 seconds and leave, it becomes marked as completely watched, with the red line extending all the way under the thumbnail. It’s been like this forever.

          Does anyone know if this is a bug, or intentional? It’s frustrating to me.

          (Apple TV.)

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          #37

          @mwichary Hovering over things also seems to be enough (Home at least, or anything that silently plays on hover, not the right side recommendations which just animate), and interrupted plays never restart from the last position.

          Imagine basic functionality working in a software by one of the largest software companies on the planet...

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          • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

            @mwichary Hovering over things also seems to be enough (Home at least, or anything that silently plays on hover, not the right side recommendations which just animate), and interrupted plays never restart from the last position.

            Imagine basic functionality working in a software by one of the largest software companies on the planet...

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            #38

            @phl Oh, interesting. That’s even worse. I think I have hover turned off? Or mostly watch YT on hover-less platforms.

            Although the interrupted stuff resumes well for me.

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            • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

              @phl Oh, interesting. That’s even worse. I think I have hover turned off? Or mostly watch YT on hover-less platforms.

              Although the interrupted stuff resumes well for me.

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              #39

              @mwichary I mostly watch in a desktop browser - but a lot of things I have not watched appear in my history and often with a full bar

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              • phl@mastodon.socialP phl@mastodon.social

                @mwichary I mostly watch in a desktop browser - but a lot of things I have not watched appear in my history and often with a full bar

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                #40

                @phl Yikes.

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                • beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.comB beep@follow.ethanmarcotte.com

                  @tealtan @mwichary Ugh, I’ve gotten this too.

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                  #41

                  @beep @tealtan I don’t think I saw that one, but a false negative would be trickier to encounter (and, for me, less painful) than a false positive.

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                  • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                    @brundaged There might also be a big variety of clients and experiences. It’s a big ecosystem at this point.

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                    #42

                    @mwichary I just checked, and I did indeed have "All Experimental Features" turned on.

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                    • brundaged@mastodon.socialB brundaged@mastodon.social

                      @mwichary I just checked, and I did indeed have "All Experimental Features" turned on.

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                      #43

                      @brundaged 🙃

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                      • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                        @jwcph Oh, and also it’s not over 3 seconds. It’s under. So it’s kind of the opposite of your theory?

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                        #44

                        @mwichary No idea - the most obvious answer is that their shit just doesn't work well, because as I said, they don't care at all about your experience as a viewer.

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