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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

    https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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    #46

    @nixCraft IMHO

    personally I like AI mode, but there should be a option to turn it off for people who don't like AI

    And since, yk, Google uses AI for even their definitions

    Some guy searched "stop" and it said the meaning was

    "Ok I'll stop"

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    • mustardfacial@infosec.exchangeM mustardfacial@infosec.exchange

      @nixCraft Serious question: If Google dies, what happens to Android? Google effectively owns it and it shuttering the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) in September.

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      #47

      @Mustardfacial @nixCraft

      Google will not die, at least not without a new kid on the block eating their lunch.

      Being assholes will not drive users away as long as your product is better (actually or percieved as) than the competition.

      So, if Google dies entirely, it will be because all of their products have been killed off by competing products.

      Any product still good enough to be a contender would be bought up by someone else or (more likely) be spun off into a new company.

      So, I seriously doubt that Google will die, but it may very well face the same destiny as Microsoft, who was absolutely untouchable on the desktop OS market back around the time when Windows 95 and 98 came out.

      Yes, there was OS/2 and Mac OS, but they were niche players. Today, the world is completely different because of mobile devices, and none of them runs a Microsoft OS. Microsoft is now just "a" operating system provider, not "the" operating system provider.

      My guess is that Google could end up in the same situation as Microsoft once the dedicated AI-companies start eating into parts of their business.

      Oh, and make no mistake. LLM is here to stay.

      It will not be the do-all-end-all tool that some wants it to be, but it is definitely a tool that has its uses as e.g. a dedicated knowledge management tool internally in companies.

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

        https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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        #48

        @nixCraft I just wish DDG had an ai reporting feature on image search- I’m glad they clear out the ai ‘emoji’ database spam, but websites using ai images remain.
        Before:2023

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        • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

          @nixCraft@mastodon.social

          I ditched Google as my go-to search-engine not long after I ditched Chrome as my go-to browser. Yes, I still use both, but that usage is constrained to specific scenarios:

          • Google Search is much better for finding images

          • Chrome is effectively required for some of the sites I have to use (mostly for work-related things). To limit the potential damage of doing so (things like the
          weights.bin fuckery), I run it inside a sandbox.

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          #49

          @nixCraft@mastodon.social Speaking of "weights.bin fuckery… A quick (DDG) search indicates Google may not have finalized the location of the file and that location may have shifted since the initial kerfuffle. Looks like you may need to wholly disable Chrome's AI extensions, instead (of just nulling the Chrome-installed file's original location). If they are still figuring out where to place it, I wonder if they're at least cleaning up the prior placements before trying to write further 4GiB files?

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

            https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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            #50

            @nixCraft

            AI sloppification plague is coming for every major proprietary service out on the internet, sooner or later

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

              https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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              #51

              @nixCraft That moment when "we have a specific feature NOT" ist the USP.
              A result of very sad times...

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                #52

                @nixCraft

                I use duckduckgo instead of chrome but on the app it has ai. Have to go online to noai.duckduckgo.com to eliminate ai.

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                • andxor@mstdn.socialA andxor@mstdn.social

                  @nixCraft the comments on that thread are brutal though (for good reasons IMO).

                  It looks like we're going back to the days where no single *good* search engine existed. We live in interesting times.

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                  #53
                  @nixCraft @andxor Competition time. 👍 #capitalism
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                  • tk@f.kawa-kun.comT tk@f.kawa-kun.com
                    @nixCraft @andxor Competition time. 👍 #capitalism
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                    #54

                    @tk @nixCraft yep, in one way we're regressing, but we're also opening the door to a new world full of alternatives, and free of monopolies! (Or at least I hope so)

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                      https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                      #55

                      @nixCraft They just don't get it do they?
                      Firefox who held a survey in which a huge majority voted against AI, allows you to block AI tools, but almost begs you not to.
                      Duckduck go browser just lets you turn it off.

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                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                        DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                        https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                        #56

                        @nixCraft just a shame that the AI is on by default on their platform

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                        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                          DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                          https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                          #57

                          @nixCraft
                          How does that manifest on the other side? Was the drop in Google searches measurable?

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                          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                            DuckDuckGo's AI-free search saw nearly 28% more visits in the week following Google's insistence that people love AI mode. Is anyone surprised by this result?

                            https://xcancel.com/DuckDuckGo/status/2059371174023348514

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                            #58

                            @nixCraft

                            if only DDG didn't give the exact same results as google's pay-for-views!

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                            • wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.ukW wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.uk

                              @nixCraft They just don't get it do they?
                              Firefox who held a survey in which a huge majority voted against AI, allows you to block AI tools, but almost begs you not to.
                              Duckduck go browser just lets you turn it off.

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                              #59

                              @wyliecoyoteuk @nixCraft

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                              • gulfie@mastodonapp.ukG gulfie@mastodonapp.uk

                                @nixCraft just a shame that the AI is on by default on their platform

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                                #60

                                @gulfie
                                @nixCraft
                                Yeah seems like a weird brag when the difference between them is a button on the search bar.

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                                • mustardfacial@infosec.exchangeM mustardfacial@infosec.exchange

                                  @nixCraft Serious question: If Google dies, what happens to Android? Google effectively owns it and it shuttering the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) in September.

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                                  #61

                                  @Mustardfacial @nixCraft Are you really expecting Alphabet to die?

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                                  • shaedrich@mastodon.onlineS shaedrich@mastodon.online

                                    @wyliecoyoteuk @nixCraft

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                                    #62

                                    @shaedrich @nixCraft
                                    I did not say that they weren't, I just pointed out that the process of turning it off is very different.
                                    DDG also lets you turn it off in search.

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                                    • wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.ukW wyliecoyoteuk@mastodon.org.uk

                                      @shaedrich @nixCraft
                                      I did not say that they weren't, I just pointed out that the process of turning it off is very different.
                                      DDG also lets you turn it off in search.

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                                      #63

                                      @wyliecoyoteuk @nixCraft DDG's still on quite a high horse, saying "People are fleeing from a website that embraced AI, fleeing to us¹!"

                                      ¹ a website that embraced AI

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                                      • madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.netM madsenandersc@social.vivaldi.net

                                        @Mustardfacial @nixCraft

                                        Google will not die, at least not without a new kid on the block eating their lunch.

                                        Being assholes will not drive users away as long as your product is better (actually or percieved as) than the competition.

                                        So, if Google dies entirely, it will be because all of their products have been killed off by competing products.

                                        Any product still good enough to be a contender would be bought up by someone else or (more likely) be spun off into a new company.

                                        So, I seriously doubt that Google will die, but it may very well face the same destiny as Microsoft, who was absolutely untouchable on the desktop OS market back around the time when Windows 95 and 98 came out.

                                        Yes, there was OS/2 and Mac OS, but they were niche players. Today, the world is completely different because of mobile devices, and none of them runs a Microsoft OS. Microsoft is now just "a" operating system provider, not "the" operating system provider.

                                        My guess is that Google could end up in the same situation as Microsoft once the dedicated AI-companies start eating into parts of their business.

                                        Oh, and make no mistake. LLM is here to stay.

                                        It will not be the do-all-end-all tool that some wants it to be, but it is definitely a tool that has its uses as e.g. a dedicated knowledge management tool internally in companies.

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                                        #64

                                        @madsenandersc @Mustardfacial @nixCraft On mobile, yes. But desktop and mobile are very different animals in certain aspects.

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                                        • shaedrich@mastodon.onlineS shaedrich@mastodon.online

                                          @wyliecoyoteuk @nixCraft DDG's still on quite a high horse, saying "People are fleeing from a website that embraced AI, fleeing to us¹!"

                                          ¹ a website that embraced AI

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                                          #65

                                          @shaedrich @nixCraft At least they let you turn it off easily, unlike Chrome or google search.

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