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  3. If you're looking for a Flickr-style photography platform on the Fediverse, there's one in beta testing called Vernissage:

If you're looking for a Flickr-style photography platform on the Fediverse, there's one in beta testing called Vernissage:

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  • timtfj@mastodon.socialT timtfj@mastodon.social

    @FediTips Thanks! OED has /vɛrnisaʒ/, so it seems we've not anglicised it. It's not a word I was aware of. (I'd been mentally trying to say it as an awkward 4-syllable German or Norwegian word.)

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    #11

    @FediTips And it turns out the Norwegian version is vernissasje, with a silent -e. So nearly the same.

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      @timtfj

      I'm not a linguist but would guess this is due to relatively recent influence of French art world.

      (Whereas something like "homage" is medieval and has an English pronunciation /ˈhɒmɪdʒ/ )

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      #12

      @FediTips The earliest occurrence the OED has is 1912, so I think you're right. It's basically a French word being used in English.

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      • timtfj@mastodon.socialT timtfj@mastodon.social

        @FediTips The earliest occurrence the OED has is 1912, so I think you're right. It's basically a French word being used in English.

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        #13

        @timtfj

        Paris was the place to be for artists at the time! 🇫🇷

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          If you're looking for a Flickr-style photography platform on the Fediverse, there's one in beta testing called Vernissage:

          ➡️ https://joinvernissage.org

          Bear in mind it's still in testing, so it may not all work properly yet. You can follow the latest news on its official account:

          ➡️ @vernissage

          Vernissage is part of the Fediverse so you can also use it to view photos and follow photographers from Mastodon, Pixelfed and other Fedi platforms.

          #Photography #Fediverse #Vernissage

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          #14

          @FediTips @vernissage the AI generation of alt texts is a big red flag tbh

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            p.p.s. People are going to inevitably ask how this compares to Pixelfed. This is my take:

            - Pixelfed is an Instagram-style social network platform based around images and short videos

            - Vernissage is a Flickr-style photography platform for exploring still photos as an art form

            Please feel free to correct if this is wrong.

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            #15

            @FediTips videos are very rare on pixelfed

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            • zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyzZ zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyz

              @FediTips @vernissage the AI generation of alt texts is a big red flag tbh

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              #16

              @zenmaya

              It's definitely problematic but I don't think it's core to the functioning of the platform? I am assuming that server owners don't have to activate any AI stuff?

              @vernissage would be able to comment more.

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                If you're looking for a Flickr-style photography platform on the Fediverse, there's one in beta testing called Vernissage:

                ➡️ https://joinvernissage.org

                Bear in mind it's still in testing, so it may not all work properly yet. You can follow the latest news on its official account:

                ➡️ @vernissage

                Vernissage is part of the Fediverse so you can also use it to view photos and follow photographers from Mastodon, Pixelfed and other Fedi platforms.

                #Photography #Fediverse #Vernissage

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                #17

                @FediTips @vernissage this is a really cool idea. Going to check it out.

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                • zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyzZ zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyz

                  @FediTips @vernissage the AI generation of alt texts is a big red flag tbh

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                  #18

                  @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage

                  It's a tool, and nobody has to use it. I personally love it. Many of my pictures on Vernissage.photos would otherwise have much worse alt text.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    If you're looking for a Flickr-style photography platform on the Fediverse, there's one in beta testing called Vernissage:

                    ➡️ https://joinvernissage.org

                    Bear in mind it's still in testing, so it may not all work properly yet. You can follow the latest news on its official account:

                    ➡️ @vernissage

                    Vernissage is part of the Fediverse so you can also use it to view photos and follow photographers from Mastodon, Pixelfed and other Fedi platforms.

                    #Photography #Fediverse #Vernissage

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                    #19

                    @FediTips @vernissage It‘s an already stable solution and the development is going on there with reason and accuracy - and when a feature is there, it‘s there: No continuous „coming soon“-announcements or similar stuff - Vernissage simply delivers! 🤘🏻

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                    • zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyzZ zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyz

                      @FediTips @vernissage the AI generation of alt texts is a big red flag tbh

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                      #20

                      @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage if you want to try Vernissage with that function intentionally disabled, you can at https://vernissage.pnpde.social

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                      • ruanjoma@mas.toR ruanjoma@mas.to

                        @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage

                        It's a tool, and nobody has to use it. I personally love it. Many of my pictures on Vernissage.photos would otherwise have much worse alt text.

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                        #21

                        @ruanjoma @FediTips @vernissage well alt text isn't for you, its for the visually impaired, and from what ive heard they don't like auto-generated alt texts, because they can generate them as well by their screen readers, the point of alt texts is the human actually typing the text there

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                        • dnddeutsch@mastodon.pnpde.socialD dnddeutsch@mastodon.pnpde.social

                          @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage if you want to try Vernissage with that function intentionally disabled, you can at https://vernissage.pnpde.social

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                          #22

                          @dnddeutsch @FediTips @vernissage I'm just not liking them intentionally boasting about it, I do not think it's a good feature to provide to users, because it goes against the wishes of the visually impaired community.

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                          • zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyzZ zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyz

                            @ruanjoma @FediTips @vernissage well alt text isn't for you, its for the visually impaired, and from what ive heard they don't like auto-generated alt texts, because they can generate them as well by their screen readers, the point of alt texts is the human actually typing the text there

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                            @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage

                            Okay, then I didn't understand alt text and wouldn't know what else to write there. I meant it should say what's in the picture 🤷🏼‍♂️

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                            • ruanjoma@mas.toR ruanjoma@mas.to

                              @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage

                              Okay, then I didn't understand alt text and wouldn't know what else to write there. I meant it should say what's in the picture 🤷🏼‍♂️

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                              #24

                              @ruanjoma @FediTips @vernissage It is, but AI is not 100% correct and users of screen readers can always just generate the description themselves. The point of writing alt text manually is the fact that the author or some other human wrote it to describe the picture. It can add context a machine cannot etc. etc.

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                              • zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyzZ zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyz

                                @ruanjoma @FediTips @vernissage It is, but AI is not 100% correct and users of screen readers can always just generate the description themselves. The point of writing alt text manually is the fact that the author or some other human wrote it to describe the picture. It can add context a machine cannot etc. etc.

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                                #25

                                @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage

                                Of course, I read the generated text and correct or add to it if necessary. Most of the time, this isn't necessary, and honestly, the texts are better in most cases than what I could write myself.

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  @timtfj

                                  Paris was the place to be for artists at the time! 🇫🇷

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                                  #26

                                  @FediTips And musicians!

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                                  • zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyzZ zenmaya@social.zenmaya.xyz

                                    @dnddeutsch @FediTips @vernissage I'm just not liking them intentionally boasting about it, I do not think it's a good feature to provide to users, because it goes against the wishes of the visually impaired community.

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                                    #27

                                    @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage understandably! But oth they put a lot of thought (read: more than similar software) into accessibility, so we decided they we're a better match for our users - ymmv ofc 🙂

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                                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                      p.p.s. People are going to inevitably ask how this compares to Pixelfed. This is my take:

                                      - Pixelfed is an Instagram-style social network platform based around images and short videos

                                      - Vernissage is a Flickr-style photography platform for exploring still photos as an art form

                                      Please feel free to correct if this is wrong.

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                                      #28

                                      @FediTips

                                      I'm not in a position to talk from experience of usage, but Vernissage seems to be the one to use if EXIF meta data matters to you and Pixelfed if you only want images

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                                      • dnddeutsch@mastodon.pnpde.socialD dnddeutsch@mastodon.pnpde.social

                                        @zenmaya @FediTips @vernissage understandably! But oth they put a lot of thought (read: more than similar software) into accessibility, so we decided they we're a better match for our users - ymmv ofc 🙂

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                                        #29

                                        @dnddeutsch @zenmaya @vernissage

                                        To be clear, I loathe AI and consider it an enormous con that is corroding society and burning the planet.

                                        However, if people aren't on the Fedi then the centralised platforms they're using instead are definitely going to be using AI in much worse ways that cannot be opted out of.

                                        If Vernissage is keeping the AI strictly optional so that it can be turned off by an instance, then the best path forward seems to be using Vernissage on such instances.

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                                        • timtfj@mastodon.socialT timtfj@mastodon.social

                                          @FediTips And musicians!

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                                          #30

                                          @timtfj

                                          And writers etc. Amazing to hear about that period.

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