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  3. For decades, descendants of the people who built Great Zimbabwe were told by colonial archaeologists that they couldn't possibly have built it.

For decades, descendants of the people who built Great Zimbabwe were told by colonial archaeologists that they couldn't possibly have built it.

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    #1

    For decades, descendants of the people who built Great Zimbabwe were told by colonial archaeologists that they couldn't possibly have built it. This despite all the evidence & Zimbabwe meaning 'houses of stone' in the Shona language.

    The ancient aliens industry applies the same logic to Sacsayhuamán in Peru.

    Yet nobody questions who built the impressive structures in Rome or Greece.

    Sunday's Drystone Diary will explore Whose History Is Worth Keeping?

    #DrystoneDiary #Nature #Writing #History

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    • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

      For decades, descendants of the people who built Great Zimbabwe were told by colonial archaeologists that they couldn't possibly have built it. This despite all the evidence & Zimbabwe meaning 'houses of stone' in the Shona language.

      The ancient aliens industry applies the same logic to Sacsayhuamán in Peru.

      Yet nobody questions who built the impressive structures in Rome or Greece.

      Sunday's Drystone Diary will explore Whose History Is Worth Keeping?

      #DrystoneDiary #Nature #Writing #History

      oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @kristiedegaris

      It's colonialist propaganda: we've seen how they belittle our indigenous population here in México, foreign archaeologists that refer to our pyramids and structures as "not possible" and "probably from people that came from elsewhere" and yet there they are, majestic and strong and wouldn't you know it, Still Here.

      They do it to obscure the advancements of "others*"...

      *: not caucasians.

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      • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

        For decades, descendants of the people who built Great Zimbabwe were told by colonial archaeologists that they couldn't possibly have built it. This despite all the evidence & Zimbabwe meaning 'houses of stone' in the Shona language.

        The ancient aliens industry applies the same logic to Sacsayhuamán in Peru.

        Yet nobody questions who built the impressive structures in Rome or Greece.

        Sunday's Drystone Diary will explore Whose History Is Worth Keeping?

        #DrystoneDiary #Nature #Writing #History

        xs4me2@mastodon.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @kristiedegaris

        Racism is what you call that… fed by white colonial christians…

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        • oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO oscarfalcon@mastodon.social

          @kristiedegaris

          It's colonialist propaganda: we've seen how they belittle our indigenous population here in México, foreign archaeologists that refer to our pyramids and structures as "not possible" and "probably from people that came from elsewhere" and yet there they are, majestic and strong and wouldn't you know it, Still Here.

          They do it to obscure the advancements of "others*"...

          *: not caucasians.

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          #4

          @oscarfalcon 100% and it's a subject specifically within drystone that we do not talk about enough. Our understanding of the world and the craft is extremely Eurocentric. Why? Racism, let's be honest.

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          • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

            For decades, descendants of the people who built Great Zimbabwe were told by colonial archaeologists that they couldn't possibly have built it. This despite all the evidence & Zimbabwe meaning 'houses of stone' in the Shona language.

            The ancient aliens industry applies the same logic to Sacsayhuamán in Peru.

            Yet nobody questions who built the impressive structures in Rome or Greece.

            Sunday's Drystone Diary will explore Whose History Is Worth Keeping?

            #DrystoneDiary #Nature #Writing #History

            robbins@mastodon.scotR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @kristiedegaris the "aliens built it " trope is pure racism always has been part of the pseudoscientific "ancient astronaut theory " Von Daniken was a major proponent and a nasty colonial racist among others who then wrote books and created films full of nonsense

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            • xs4me2@mastodon.socialX xs4me2@mastodon.social

              @kristiedegaris

              Racism is what you call that… fed by white colonial christians…

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              #6

              @xs4me2 Absolutely

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              • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                @oscarfalcon 100% and it's a subject specifically within drystone that we do not talk about enough. Our understanding of the world and the craft is extremely Eurocentric. Why? Racism, let's be honest.

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                #7

                @kristiedegaris

                Indeed!

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                • robbins@mastodon.scotR robbins@mastodon.scot

                  @kristiedegaris the "aliens built it " trope is pure racism always has been part of the pseudoscientific "ancient astronaut theory " Von Daniken was a major proponent and a nasty colonial racist among others who then wrote books and created films full of nonsense

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                  #8

                  @Robbins Completely agree. That's why I wrote this piece. As a drystone waller and therefore a custodian of the craft it is important to talk about all sides of it.

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                  • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                    @Robbins Completely agree. That's why I wrote this piece. As a drystone waller and therefore a custodian of the craft it is important to talk about all sides of it.

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                    #9

                    @kristiedegaris 👏👏

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                    • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                      @oscarfalcon 100% and it's a subject specifically within drystone that we do not talk about enough. Our understanding of the world and the craft is extremely Eurocentric. Why? Racism, let's be honest.

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                      #10

                      @kristiedegaris

                      BTW, I saw the BBC is doing a report on drystone construction for Countryfile next Sunday and I'm curious: did they reach out to you for this?

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                      • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                        @oscarfalcon 100% and it's a subject specifically within drystone that we do not talk about enough. Our understanding of the world and the craft is extremely Eurocentric. Why? Racism, let's be honest.

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                        #11

                        @kristiedegaris yep, and it's something shared by many other crafts

                        @oscarfalcon

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                        • oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO oscarfalcon@mastodon.social

                          @kristiedegaris

                          BTW, I saw the BBC is doing a report on drystone construction for Countryfile next Sunday and I'm curious: did they reach out to you for this?

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                          #12

                          @oscarfalcon No, I haven't ever been asked. I think others in the community don't appreciate my views and my dislike of the institutions and their attitudes. I also don't present the comforting view of traditional crafts that people like to have.

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                          • alx@mastodon.designA alx@mastodon.design

                            @kristiedegaris yep, and it's something shared by many other crafts

                            @oscarfalcon

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                            @alx @oscarfalcon Sadly, this is very true and again, while I can only talk specifically about drystone (as that is my main experience), it seems clear that the institutions at the front of these crafts have so much to answer for.

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                            • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                              @oscarfalcon No, I haven't ever been asked. I think others in the community don't appreciate my views and my dislike of the institutions and their attitudes. I also don't present the comforting view of traditional crafts that people like to have.

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                              #14

                              @kristiedegaris

                              Oh, sad isn't it? missed opportunity to present a more broad piece of reporting...
                              (Isn't their motto "educate, entertain and inform"? ha!, my arse...)

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                              • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                                @alx @oscarfalcon Sadly, this is very true and again, while I can only talk specifically about drystone (as that is my main experience), it seems clear that the institutions at the front of these crafts have so much to answer for.

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                                #15

                                @kristiedegaris @alx

                                Let's hope someday soon, they do.

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                                • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                                  @oscarfalcon No, I haven't ever been asked. I think others in the community don't appreciate my views and my dislike of the institutions and their attitudes. I also don't present the comforting view of traditional crafts that people like to have.

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                                  #16

                                  @kristiedegaris

                                  I appreciate what you do, truly.

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                                  • oscarfalcon@mastodon.socialO oscarfalcon@mastodon.social

                                    @kristiedegaris

                                    I appreciate what you do, truly.

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                                    #17

                                    @oscarfalcon This is very kind. Thank you! I love that people are engaging with this ancient craft and my thoughts on it.

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                                    • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                                      @oscarfalcon This is very kind. Thank you! I love that people are engaging with this ancient craft and my thoughts on it.

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                                      #18

                                      @kristiedegaris

                                      I do, we do...

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                                      • kristiedegaris@mastodon.scotK kristiedegaris@mastodon.scot

                                        @alx @oscarfalcon Sadly, this is very true and again, while I can only talk specifically about drystone (as that is my main experience), it seems clear that the institutions at the front of these crafts have so much to answer for.

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                                        #19

                                        @kristiedegaris

                                        True, but this different evaluation of crafts has very deep roots in history, and it's been only exacerbated with the modern concept of "crafts" that emerged from the industrial revolution - especially in the colonial powers that industrialised first (the UK being the first). There is a countercurrent movement from large institutions, but I find more than often that - to value them - non-European crafts are hyper-romanticised, which isn't good either.

                                        @oscarfalcon

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                                        • alx@mastodon.designA alx@mastodon.design

                                          @kristiedegaris

                                          True, but this different evaluation of crafts has very deep roots in history, and it's been only exacerbated with the modern concept of "crafts" that emerged from the industrial revolution - especially in the colonial powers that industrialised first (the UK being the first). There is a countercurrent movement from large institutions, but I find more than often that - to value them - non-European crafts are hyper-romanticised, which isn't good either.

                                          @oscarfalcon

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                                          @alx @kristiedegaris

                                          Good Point.

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