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  3. We placed a tracking device in a shipment of rare books to see which AI company was buying it, and found an Amazon facility where Amazon scans and destroys books.

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  • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

    @Epic_Null @Bredroll @JPummil @404mediaco
    I guess it's a fringe benefit that it will also gradually diminish the availability of reliable information, thus increasing the value of such information in our brave dystopian future. The motto can be "They who can afford books get to possess true knowledge."

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    #30

    @GerardThornley @Epic_Null @Bredroll @JPummil @404mediaco everything old is new again

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      #31

      @hakfoo @404mediaco Yeah. I'm not an expert in how training these models works, but I'd expect adding more input (to any already wildly massive set of training data) of old books that are inaccurate, outdated, or otherwise not generally of interest to modern readers will at best be a *very* marginal improvement to the model, and at worst bloat the model while make it produce more outdated and irrelevant information.

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      • penguinflight@mastodon.deP penguinflight@mastodon.de

        @nemobis I hope they stop fucking SELLING them to these cunts.

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        #32

        @penguinflight @nemobis this

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        • 404mediaco@mastodon.social4 404mediaco@mastodon.social

          We placed a tracking device in a shipment of rare books to see which AI company was buying it, and found an Amazon facility where Amazon scans and destroys books.

          https://www.404media.co/we-tracked-a-shipment-of-rare-books-it-ended-at-an-amazon-ai-training-facility/

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          #33

          @404mediaco
          Why do they destroy the book?

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          • lostgen@det.socialL lostgen@det.social

            @jrdumas They do release it. It's in the agent and can be more or less extracted word-by-word. @Epic_Null @Bredroll @JPummil @404mediaco

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            #34

            @lostgen
            How can we do that?
            @jrdumas @Epic_Null @Bredroll @JPummil @404mediaco

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            • astromancer5g@spore.socialA astromancer5g@spore.social

              @lostgen
              How can we do that?
              @jrdumas @Epic_Null @Bredroll @JPummil @404mediaco

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              #35

              @AstroMancer5G @lostgen @jrdumas @Epic_Null @JPummil @404mediaco sometimes you can simply ask them

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              • 404mediaco@mastodon.social4 404mediaco@mastodon.social

                We placed a tracking device in a shipment of rare books to see which AI company was buying it, and found an Amazon facility where Amazon scans and destroys books.

                https://www.404media.co/we-tracked-a-shipment-of-rare-books-it-ended-at-an-amazon-ai-training-facility/

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                #36
                This must be stopped but wont be
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                • misjavanlaatum@mastodon.gamedev.placeM misjavanlaatum@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @sf105 @404mediaco woah, steady on there: digitisation is not necessarily destructive, right? Whatever happened to scanning page by page?

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                  @misjavanlaatum @sf105 @404mediaco The only reason this is destructive is because they don't care about these texts. They're chopping the spines off to make the pages easy to toss on a scanner, just like any standard photocopier. Real preservation is done by hand, including scanning the pages and then correcting any distortion.

                  Like do you know the kind of books the best libraries have? Copies under lock and key, hundreds or thousands of years old, only accessible to be viewed by approved parties and only handled by a curator with white gloves, from bringing it out to turning the pages. If you suggested cutting the spine to scan one of those, they'd slap you back to when it was written!

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                  • 404mediaco@mastodon.social4 404mediaco@mastodon.social

                    We placed a tracking device in a shipment of rare books to see which AI company was buying it, and found an Amazon facility where Amazon scans and destroys books.

                    https://www.404media.co/we-tracked-a-shipment-of-rare-books-it-ended-at-an-amazon-ai-training-facility/

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                    #38

                    @404mediaco Monopolizing human knowledge. Save your old books. Treat them with respect.

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                    • 404mediaco@mastodon.social4 404mediaco@mastodon.social

                      We placed a tracking device in a shipment of rare books to see which AI company was buying it, and found an Amazon facility where Amazon scans and destroys books.

                      https://www.404media.co/we-tracked-a-shipment-of-rare-books-it-ended-at-an-amazon-ai-training-facility/

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                      #39

                      @404mediaco you legends. 👏

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