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  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

    h/t @nyanbinary

    so let me get this straight
    microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

    has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

    if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

    the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

    mccrankyface@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @Viss @nyanbinary

    Microsoft is an APT.
    It is known

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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      h/t @nyanbinary

      so let me get this straight
      microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

      has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

      if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

      the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

      _greywolf@kinkycats.org_ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @Viss
      Though that kinda is always the risk
      Antivirus just had the biggest attack surface
      @nyanbinary

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      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

        h/t @nyanbinary

        so let me get this straight
        microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

        has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

        if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

        the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

        huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
        huronbikes@cyberplace.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
        huronbikes@cyberplace.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #6

        @Viss @nyanbinary

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          h/t @nyanbinary

          so let me get this straight
          microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

          has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

          if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

          the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

          apodoxus@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
          apodoxus@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @Viss @nyanbinary This is why we always advocated for MAC rather than addling layers of bullshit. Ya'll are just increasing the attack surface area all the time. You need to REDUCE it with a tiny thoroughly audited reference monitor.

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          • apodoxus@mastodon.onlineA apodoxus@mastodon.online

            @Viss @nyanbinary This is why we always advocated for MAC rather than addling layers of bullshit. Ya'll are just increasing the attack surface area all the time. You need to REDUCE it with a tiny thoroughly audited reference monitor.

            apodoxus@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @Viss @nyanbinary Can't make money doing that though... and that's all anyone cares about.

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

              h/t @nyanbinary

              so let me get this straight
              microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

              has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

              if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

              the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

              jeffers00n@tiny.tilde.websiteJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jeffers00n@tiny.tilde.websiteJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @Viss @nyanbinary straight out of Jennifer Government. (A good read if you haven't read it)

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              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                h/t @nyanbinary

                so let me get this straight
                microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

                slyborg@ohai.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @Viss @nyanbinary this isn’t even the first time this has happened with Defender

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                • jeffers00n@tiny.tilde.websiteJ jeffers00n@tiny.tilde.website

                  @Viss @nyanbinary straight out of Jennifer Government. (A good read if you haven't read it)

                  mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
                  mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @jeffers00n @Viss @nyanbinary also a subplot in Snow Crash iirc

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                  • mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM mpc3032at@mastodon.social

                    @jeffers00n @Viss @nyanbinary also a subplot in Snow Crash iirc

                    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #12

                    @mpc3032at @jeffers00n @nyanbinary oh boy its been a while since i listened to snowcrash on audiobook.

                    s'too bad we cant have a "but they're sure to listen to reason" moment

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                      h/t @nyanbinary

                      so let me get this straight
                      microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                      has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                      if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                      the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

                      argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
                      argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @Viss @nyanbinary

                      Ah good. Now I don't have to deal with code signing my app any more. 😂

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                        @mpc3032at @jeffers00n @nyanbinary oh boy its been a while since i listened to snowcrash on audiobook.

                        s'too bad we cant have a "but they're sure to listen to reason" moment

                        mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary aww i remember almost nothing about the book now, but the one lady hacking away feverishly on that was a standout for me at the time, it seemed so cool, in like a 'obvious in retrospect' way... but actually living it derpishly like this is... i dunno 😕

                        (also, hello fediverse! 2nd ~post, woo! and hello fediverse person... you gave me lovely positive feedback in *minutes*... i like this!)

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                        • mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM mpc3032at@mastodon.social

                          @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary aww i remember almost nothing about the book now, but the one lady hacking away feverishly on that was a standout for me at the time, it seemed so cool, in like a 'obvious in retrospect' way... but actually living it derpishly like this is... i dunno 😕

                          (also, hello fediverse! 2nd ~post, woo! and hello fediverse person... you gave me lovely positive feedback in *minutes*... i like this!)

                          more ->

                          mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary a couple years back i got depressed about softwaring because of this ~'AI' silliness coming down the pike, but of late it is SO BAD i feel incrementally fired up, renewed

                          riffing wildly, maybe software, because of its peculiar nature (this reified perfection of causality) is a good, stark example of why things should be done by people who love the things...because when not, the error compounds exponentially, and we get *this* (gestures wildly all around)

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                          • mpc3032at@mastodon.socialM mpc3032at@mastodon.social

                            @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary a couple years back i got depressed about softwaring because of this ~'AI' silliness coming down the pike, but of late it is SO BAD i feel incrementally fired up, renewed

                            riffing wildly, maybe software, because of its peculiar nature (this reified perfection of causality) is a good, stark example of why things should be done by people who love the things...because when not, the error compounds exponentially, and we get *this* (gestures wildly all around)

                            viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #16

                            @mpc3032at @jeffers00n @nyanbinary yeah i wager youre probably in good company here

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                              @mpc3032at @jeffers00n @nyanbinary yeah i wager youre probably in good company here

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                              #17

                              @Viss @jeffers00n @nyanbinary yay!

                              Vive la révolution!

                              (although, evolution preferably... i offer myself to the commons for the cause, lol)

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                              • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                h/t @nyanbinary

                                so let me get this straight
                                microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                                has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                                if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                                the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

                                alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                @Viss @nyanbinary Reminds me of Taviso's P0 research from a few years ago targeting AV scanning sandboxes/VMs.

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                                • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  @Viss @nyanbinary

                                  Ah good. Now I don't have to deal with code signing my app any more. 😂

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                                  #19

                                  @argv_minus_one @Viss @nyanbinary I wonder if I can use this to configure winrm so I can remote in and fix the random shit Microsoft keeps breaking.

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                                  • alesandroortiz@infosec.exchangeA alesandroortiz@infosec.exchange

                                    @Viss @nyanbinary Reminds me of Taviso's P0 research from a few years ago targeting AV scanning sandboxes/VMs.

                                    viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    @AlesandroOrtiz @nyanbinary oh yeah, 100%

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                      @jlin @nyanbinary i think france, denmark and germany have the right idea - just ditch windows entirely

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                                      #21

                                      @Viss @jlin @nyanbinary Ditches have a purpose. They are not for refuse. Put that shit in the trash.

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        h/t @nyanbinary

                                        so let me get this straight
                                        microsoft defender, the built-in antivirus tool for windows

                                        has a heap based buffer overflow that leads to remote code execution

                                        if you get it to scan a file, and that file is crafted the right way.

                                        the antivirus tool is the carrier for the execution of malware.

                                        catsalad@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #22

                                        @Viss @nyanbinary Sufficiently advanced Windows services are indistinguishable from malware

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                                        • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                                          @Viss @nyanbinary Sufficiently advanced Windows services are indistinguishable from malware

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                                          #23

                                          @catsalad @Viss considering the first 5 hits whenever you search any windows executable are "is this malware? "... Yip!

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