Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays.
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Right wing tech bros: we love Star Trek but it's too woke nowadays. Too preachy. Kirk's show wasn't like this.
Average TOS episode: AI is bad and should never be allowed to run a society. Also, make peace because nationalism kills and every life form must be respected equally.
@theleftistlawyer not ro mention the complete diversity everywhere, especially in the crew
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Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.
Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.
You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.
@cyberlyra @theleftistlawyer
> You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNetDefeating the SkyNet now being built is IMO the neccessary and unevitable stage to the future free Federation of the known Universe. So often humanity must be stripped of convenience and pushed to the extreme austerity for the survivors to see the new path now unimaginable.
Ah, BTW, the Warp Drive is now something achievable:
https://thedebrief.org/meet-the-man-behind-nasa-and-darpas-warp-drive-programs/ -
@robinadams @JTinMI @theleftistlawyer I saw that but sadly did not comprehend the significance.
@AgnesBC @robinadams @JTinMI @theleftistlawyer
I suppose you know Dr. MLK begged her to stay on as Uhura
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Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.
Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.
You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.
"You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. "
This needs to be on a sticker. And I need lots of them!
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Seriously. Everyone at NASA I worked with loved Star Trek and was working towards that kind of future. They recognized the problems and challenges, but they really believed that future.
Although people in the commercial tech industry love to trot out sci fi references as if it's some kind of credential, they consistently get it wrong, making the dystopian stuff come true instead.
You just cannot get to The Federation by building SkyNet. It's not possible.
@cyberlyra There's a nuclear world war in the backstory to Star Trek. @theleftistlawyer
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RWTB: Oh but surely Picard's Enterprise wasn't like this.
Average TNG Episode: Will Riker is falling for a trans person from an agender society. Meanwhile, the genius Black disabled chief engineer and his autism-coded android best friend just saved another planet through science education.
@theleftistlawyer also average TNG episode: Irish people are always drunk, and we just murdered a baby with zero discussion because they were a clone
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@andymoose @theleftistlawyer Or they'll try to appease their new masters with a prequel series about the young Phillippa Georgiou. The one in the mirror universe.
@jadebees @theleftistlawyer Yeah, that is very likely. It will be trek of a sorts but it will be playing it very safe and boring.
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@theleftistlawyer also average TNG episode: Irish people are always drunk, and we just murdered a baby with zero discussion because they were a clone
@phooky @theleftistlawyer Hey, this is a terrible episode in many ways, but while they -were- a bunch of cringey stereotypes, it was just the one drunk Irish person, and he only -wanted- to get drunk (IIRC, he'd run out).
And it was not a baby. It was a half-grown, adult-sized clone that wasn't yet properly alive. At ethically worst it was an abortion. It certainly raised similar bodily autonomy concerns.
It's a bad episode, but call it out for what it is.
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@AgnesBC @robinadams @JTinMI @theleftistlawyer
I suppose you know Dr. MLK begged her to stay on as Uhura
@tuban_muzuru @AgnesBC @robinadams @theleftistlawyer I did, but a good point to reinforce nonetheless.
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@theleftistlawyer That is confusing as Star Trek has always been a very progressive show. As in decades ahead of its time culturally. Probably more than the average SciFi show.
If conservatives want a relatively conservative show, I think Babylon 5 might be in their orbit.
I was going to recommend Firefly / Serenity, but it’s too libertarian & diverse for their taste!
Oh mate, I think JMS would like a word.
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