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If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

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  • swope@mstdn.plusS swope@mstdn.plus

    @stux

    Do you mean to include plain-automation bots?

    I think those can be useful in some cases.

    But I agree that LLMs disguised as humans harassing humans is certainly bad.

    stux@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #15

    @swope No, no, just the LLM ones

    Acting like human

    RSS bots etc are super useful

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    • finitebanjo@feddit.onlineF finitebanjo@feddit.online

      Hell yeah, man. Personally, I’d be willing to solve a puzzle every half an hour when I navigate to the homepage or post a reply.

      crankylinuxuser@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #16

      @FiniteBanjo

      The clankers can also solve those puzzles too.

      And when a new puzzle is found that works for humans but not clanker soon is retrained so it too can solve.

      I dont have any solutions, other than what would amount to Butlerian Jihad.

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      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

        If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

        Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

        Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

        #AI #LLM

        wikifox@g0v.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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        #17

        @stux I can't understand why my teacher say OpenClaw(AI Agents) can replace real human's job.

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        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

          If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

          Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

          Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

          #AI #LLM

          lunadragofelis@void.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #18
          @stux Humans and sentient creatures welcome! (Not every fedi user considers themselves human, even if they have a human body)
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          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

            If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

            Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

            Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

            #AI #LLM

            ferret@hub.workersofthe.worldF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #19
            @stux⚡️ I've got one going as part of a running experiment. I'm transparent about it, though, and it isn't fully automated. People are definitely within their rights to block the clanker if they just don't want anything to do with it, though the experiment does depend on some level of engagement.
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            • catwoman69y2k@meow.socialC catwoman69y2k@meow.social

              @stux Is there a particular instance you have witnessed/experienced this behavior from? Harassment is not okay, and that includes when a bot does said harassment

              msh@coales.coM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #20

              @Catwoman69y2k the biggest 3 offenders of spammy/scammy #LLM #AI bots appearing on my server have been mastodon.social, mastodon.online and mastodon.world though they don't exactly "harass", they are all looking to mass follow to acquire training data at best, or commit large scale fraud at worst. I don't think the admins of those servers are being deliberately neglectful, it is mainly because they are too big for their admin teams to stay on top of.

              IMO for fedi owners and admins the best policy is to disable open account creation and require manual review or invite only, but many people resist that because it would slow adoption growth and larger instances would gave to to a huge amount of work to manually approve new accounts.

              All fair points, but in this age of out of control AI slop it might just be that the best path to success for fedi is to massively increase the number of servers with the average server side being much smaller, because smaller servers are much easier to manage.

              @stux

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              • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                #AI #LLM

                robchapman@ohai.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #21

                @stux A.I needs exterminating, it's a poison, being peddled by people who have the same motivations as those who peddle drugs that have destroyed communities in every corner of the globe

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                • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                  If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                  Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                  Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                  #AI #LLM

                  oranger@piaille.frO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #22

                  @stux by all means !

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                  • ferret@hub.workersofthe.worldF ferret@hub.workersofthe.world
                    @stux⚡️ I've got one going as part of a running experiment. I'm transparent about it, though, and it isn't fully automated. People are definitely within their rights to block the clanker if they just don't want anything to do with it, though the experiment does depend on some level of engagement.
                    ohir@social.vivaldi.netO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #23

                    @ferret
                    > as part of a running experiment
                    Is your experiment directed toward finding the best #aipoison ?

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                    • msh@coales.coM msh@coales.co

                      @Catwoman69y2k the biggest 3 offenders of spammy/scammy #LLM #AI bots appearing on my server have been mastodon.social, mastodon.online and mastodon.world though they don't exactly "harass", they are all looking to mass follow to acquire training data at best, or commit large scale fraud at worst. I don't think the admins of those servers are being deliberately neglectful, it is mainly because they are too big for their admin teams to stay on top of.

                      IMO for fedi owners and admins the best policy is to disable open account creation and require manual review or invite only, but many people resist that because it would slow adoption growth and larger instances would gave to to a huge amount of work to manually approve new accounts.

                      All fair points, but in this age of out of control AI slop it might just be that the best path to success for fedi is to massively increase the number of servers with the average server side being much smaller, because smaller servers are much easier to manage.

                      @stux

                      dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #24

                      @msh @Catwoman69y2k @stux I remember reading mastodon.world may not be moderated anymore - no actions after admin reports of things that are clearly against the server's written policy.

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                      • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                        If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                        Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                        Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                        #AI #LLM

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                        #25

                        @stux

                        Thanks!

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                        • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                          If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                          Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                          Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                          #AI #LLM

                          lrt_writes@mstdn.partyL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #26

                          @stux Agree. What instances are allowing AI agents?

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                          • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

                            If instance admins allow AI Agents on their platform and they keep harassing us I have no other choice then to silence that instance

                            Again, I do not pay these massive costs each month to host robots

                            Let's keep the #Fediverse human shall we?

                            #AI #LLM

                            ericlawton@kolektiva.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #27

                            @stux

                            Let them stick to their own platform.

                            "Meta buys 'social media network for AI' Moltbook"

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg1x788dreo

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg1x788dreo

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                            • mfierst@mstdn.socialM mfierst@mstdn.social

                              @stux
                              Thank you. I agree, let's keep the Fediverse human.

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                              #28

                              @mfierst @stux wait... What ... I'm supposed to be human!

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