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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

    We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

    We are not wiser.

    nikkileah@mendeddrum.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
    nikkileah@mendeddrum.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
    nikkileah@mendeddrum.org
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    #4

    @Daojoan sadly, the same tools used to share information have also been used for propaganda, disinformation and lies.

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    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

      We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

      We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

      We are not wiser.

      joncounts@mastodon.nzJ This user is from outside of this forum
      joncounts@mastodon.nzJ This user is from outside of this forum
      joncounts@mastodon.nz
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #5

      @Daojoan Yup. Cue one of my favourite Douglas Adams quotations, from Last Chance to See (1990):

      "It's easy to think that as a result of the extinction of the dodo we are now sadder and wiser, but there's a lot of evidence to suggest that we are merely sadder and better informed."

      #DouglasAdams

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

        We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

        We are not wiser.

        desikn@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        desikn@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        desikn@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #6

        @Daojoan We built the internet thinking we would have all the information in the world at our fingertips, thus making us more informed. But we failed to see that misinformation spreads faster than information.

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

          We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

          We are not wiser.

          steve@social.coopS This user is from outside of this forum
          steve@social.coopS This user is from outside of this forum
          steve@social.coop
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #7

          @Daojoan Tech does not lead to doing things better, or to doing better things. Tech just allows us to do the same things as before, but faster.

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

            We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

            We are not wiser.

            endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
            endlessmason@hachyderm.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
            endlessmason@hachyderm.io
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #8

            @Daojoan
            We have information shaped things.

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

              We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

              We are not wiser.

              toddalio@social.vivaldi.netT This user is from outside of this forum
              toddalio@social.vivaldi.netT This user is from outside of this forum
              toddalio@social.vivaldi.net
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #9

              @Daojoan We're basically the equivalent of going to a buffet restaurant with the intent of limiting yourself to grilled chicken and steamed broccoli, but two hours later, you've stuffed yourself with fried foods, cheese, and dessert.

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                We are not wiser.

                S This user is from outside of this forum
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                sjcooke66@mastodon.social
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #10

                @Daojoan It's because Wisdom is not the residue you have left when stupidity boils off...
                I'm misquoting an original line from Robert Newman's Radio show and Book 'Neuropolis'.

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                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                  We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                  We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                  We are not wiser.

                  countholdem@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  countholdem@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #11

                  @Daojoan We should be wiser with artificial data, like AI and ultra-processed foods that diminish every generation's capacity, for deciphering the lesser, from the greater.

                  Ignorance truly is, the ultimate enemy.

                  #Education #Revolution #BoycottAI

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                    We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                    We are not wiser.

                    jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.esJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.esJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jlperuyero@masto.nobigtech.es
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #12

                    @Daojoan
                    Too much food and we don't even know how to fry an egg.

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                      We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                      We are not wiser.

                      durrendal@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      durrendal@mastodon.social
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                      #13

                      @Daojoan well put. Information is just a tool and doesn't define wisdom at all. We still need to contemplate it's use, act upon it, and habituate that action to become wise.

                      In the age of LLMs it's easier than ever to jump straight to an "I sound wise" solution without the slightest modicum of depth and the result. Aristotle pointed to this same problem in Nicomachean Ethics when he discussed craft labor and Phronesis and drew the same conclusions.

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                        We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                        We are not wiser.

                        nmba@mstdn.caN This user is from outside of this forum
                        nmba@mstdn.caN This user is from outside of this forum
                        nmba@mstdn.ca
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                        #14

                        @Daojoan
                        It was working when the internet was free. For example twitter was a wonderful tool for information sharing and learning until the fascist oligarchy realized that a wiser citizenry is not in their favour, now it is for disinformation and thought control.

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                          We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                          We are not wiser.

                          androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
                          androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
                          androcat@toot.cat
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #15

                          @Daojoan

                          Actual wisdom: "Know how to recognize fascists, so you can fuck them up"

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                            We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                            We are not wiser.

                            renardboy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            renardboy@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #16

                            @Daojoan This is the main thing I'm wrestling with as I work to contiinue loving humanity honestly.

                            It's relevant to note that the information age is still very young however. There's a huge proportion of the population still who grew up without it.

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                              We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                              We are not wiser.

                              trixiemaina@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                              trixiemaina@mstdn.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
                              trixiemaina@mstdn.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #17

                              @Daojoan We built libraries in our pockets, but forgot to build discernment in our minds...

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                                We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                                We are not wiser.

                                S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                sometimeslovely@mas.to
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #18

                                @Daojoan
                                Knowledge

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                                  We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                                  We are not wiser.

                                  catsalad@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  catsalad@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  catsalad@infosec.exchange
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #19

                                  @Daojoan It is, however, the golden age of cat photos!

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                                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                    We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                                    We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                                    We are not wiser.

                                    h1trex@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                                    h1trex@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
                                    h1trex@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #20

                                    @Daojoan I wouldn't say we did not get wiser. The added wisdom is just used to make more profits for the few, than better lifes for the many

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                                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                      We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                                      We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                                      We are not wiser.

                                      stevefoerster@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      stevefoerster@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
                                      stevefoerster@social.vivaldi.net
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                                      #21

                                      @Daojoan Even back in the late '90s the joke was: "We used to think that if you had infinite monkeys banging away on typewriters that one would eventually produce the works of Shakespeare, but now we have the Internet and know that's not so."

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                                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                        We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                                        We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                                        We are not wiser.

                                        pier@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
                                        pier@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
                                        pier@infosec.exchange
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #22

                                        @Daojoan

                                        We are unquestionably wiser*

                                        The fact that a relatively small number of bad actors have used the tools of information to build obscene wealth and power for themselves doesn’t negate our wisdom, but it does expose the vulnerability of our social structure which, I think, is based on an assumption that the many good people can/will stop the few bad.

                                        So wiser, or better informed, doesn’t necessarily mean we automatically have a better society.

                                        *In my opinion. Not claiming to be the sole arbiter of wisdom, etc.

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          We built an entire civilisation around the idea that more information would make us wiser.

                                          We have more information than any humans who ever lived.

                                          We are not wiser.

                                          boysenberrycider@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                                          boysenberrycider@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                                          boysenberrycider@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #23

                                          @Daojoan That really isn't the fault of the people reading the information. No-one made the caveat 'you have all this information, but you need to avoid everything eye-catching, engaging, or anything that speaks your language to find the truth'.

                                          It's entirely the fault of the parasites abusing the free-information paradise to spread brain rotting dark pattern ruled social spaces and political brainwashing.

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