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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • nobody@mastodon.acm.orgN nobody@mastodon.acm.org

    @agowa338
    If only there were a technology that let's you use your own root of trust
    @Li @grote

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    #253

    @nobody @agowa338 @grote hah its the thing i said https://tech.lgbt/@Li/116257681293741665

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day
      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
      * confirm that you accept the risks
      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #254

      @grote how will integrate any non-android enterprise mdm base? Direct push apk it is a must.

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        * enable developer options
        * confirm that you are not tricked
        * restart phone and re-authenticate
        * wait one day
        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
        * confirm that you accept the risks
        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

        b@mrrp.placeB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #255

        @grote aaaaaaa ,, this type of flow would be great for something that's extremely frequently abused by scammers and is only rarely used legitimately, but sideloading apps is way too common and useful for this type of flow to be justifiable for any stated reason they have (and of course, we all know what the real reason is)

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        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

          * enable developer options
          * confirm that you are not tricked
          * restart phone and re-authenticate
          * wait one day
          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
          * confirm that you accept the risks
          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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          #256

          @grote I hate phones!

          Somebody make a one newer than 2018 that is compatible with #postmarketos please!!!!

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day
            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
            * confirm that you accept the risks
            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

            crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #257

            @grote https://clip.cafe/the-man-with-two-brains-1983/goddamn-drunk-tests-are-hard/

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day
              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
              * confirm that you accept the risks
              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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              #258

              @grote what a fucking joke.

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              • hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH hellomiakoda@pdx.social

                @lumi @grote This is why I put up with constant issues to carry a Linux phone.
                Microsoft and Google are the best at convincing me to be patient with #Linux.

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                #259

                @hellomiakoda @lumi @grote furiphone looking mighty good more and more

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                • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                  @tedmielczarek @grote No, it was a real job I had at a real company. I just wondered whether people would still be able to do that.

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                  #260

                  @TimWardCam @tedmielczarek @grote Looks to me like you'd disable this silly stuff on all the phones you manage and call it good...you're just back to the situation as it exists.

                  The real pain here is that people install fdroid from the play store thinking they can then install apps but they won't be able to without "disabling security". Other than that it seems like it's a one time annoyance -- less than if you just load lineage or something to begin with.

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                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                    * enable developer options
                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                    * wait one day
                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                    #261

                    @grote Eh, not a fan of giving Google biometrics. The 1 day wait is kinda -- petty, but OK -- the rest I sorta expected.

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                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                      * enable developer options
                      * confirm that you are not tricked
                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                      * wait one day
                      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                      * confirm that you accept the risks
                      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                      #262

                      @grote that is trash- like the whole #DIDay is a choaching session but for reclaim privacy not taking them.
                      > You Son isnt allowed to Guide you anymore, take you Candycrush and watch our holy ADs AND tell me EVERYTHING YOU DO with this lil Device, ma'am

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                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                        * enable developer options
                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                        * wait one day
                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                        chuff@bark.wolp.chatC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #263

                        I suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.

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                        • chuff@bark.wolp.chatC chuff@bark.wolp.chat

                          I suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.

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                          #264

                          I can send my famiky a link to an apk and they can install it.

                          Now its no longer an option

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                          • serk@neopaquita.esS serk@neopaquita.es

                            @grote
                            Or switch to a degoogle os.

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                            #265

                            @serk @grote so I have a degoogled os, no Google play store. I'm still going to be able to get apps right? This is just a problem for play store?

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                            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                              * enable developer options
                              * confirm that you are not tricked
                              * restart phone and re-authenticate
                              * wait one day
                              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                              * confirm that you accept the risks
                              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                              #266

                              @grote@chaos.social While this is not good, it is a lot less bad than I was expecting. I thought they were going to make it so you have to unlock the bootloader and install a distro to install apps Google doesn't approve of, which would make it unavailable on the vast majority of phone.

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                              • chuff@bark.wolp.chatC chuff@bark.wolp.chat

                                I suspect they'll find there's actually quite a few that will put up with this, after all the average Android user only installs from the Play Store, those that are using F-Droid or side loading are actively choosing to avoid Google, and I don't think this'll be much of a barrier to them, I know I'll jump through these hoops without batting an eye.

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                                #267

                                The bigger problem is that a number of those devs are gonna stop work on those apps because of this.

                                Fuck Google.

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                                • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                  @valpackett @old_angry_queer @grote

                                  You're right. I totally missed that.

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                                  #268

                                  @terminaltilt @valpackett @old_angry_queer @grote

                                  Am I missing a new Android feature, can one sign into the device with biometrics after rebooting?

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                                  • ziclaud@mastodon.socialZ ziclaud@mastodon.social

                                    *Cries in Redmi phones* (they're not allowing me to unlock the bootloader 💀)

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                                    #269

                                    @ziclaud I hope one day we'll reach a stage when locked bootloaders will be considered illegal

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                                    • dequei@masto.esD dequei@masto.es

                                      @stw @grote Yeah, just start using linux phones, like the #Jolla and done

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                                      @Dequei @stw @grote i'm on the FLX1S from furios and not looking back.

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                                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                        * enable developer options
                                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                        * wait one day
                                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                        #271

                                        @grote Does this automatically kill off Aurora Store access?

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                                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                          * enable developer options
                                          * confirm that you are not tricked
                                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                          * wait one day
                                          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                          * confirm that you accept the risks
                                          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #272

                                          @grote

                                          Long live DuckDuckGo. Long live Vivaldi.

                                          The open sources are out there . . .

                                          (Also, big praise for Lenovo's ThinkPad, who said to Microsoft, "let's call the whole thing off.")

                                          https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stevenstonetech_lenovo-is-switching-the-default-os-on-thinkpads-activity-7430983261776109568-g_4-

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