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  3. i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • meaningfulbits@mastodon.socialM meaningfulbits@mastodon.social

    @eniko don't forget to add doesn't require an always on Internet connection.

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    #32

    @MeaningfulBits @eniko should be illegal to call it an "app" if it does.
    Maybe call it a "shim" instead.

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    • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

      @me @badtux @eniko
      It's like building on quicksand.

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      #33
      @kirtai @badtux @eniko Right?
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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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        #34

        @eniko me too me too.

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        • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

          @me @eniko And every fifteen minutes there is a new Java release that fixes a thousand security holes and adds a thousand new features to bloat up the runtime. Meanwhile my "C" programs from the early 1990s still compile and run just fine.

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          #35
          @badtux @eniko I'm so glad I don't typically work in Java.
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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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            #36

            @eniko in many cases i’d be willing to pay *more* for this approach.

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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              #37

              @eniko and none of this broken shit

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              • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                #software #softwaredevelopment

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                #38

                @badtux @eniko Maybe that's the appeal of VBA? I never made the move from VB6 to VB.net, so no idea how stable that is. VBA seems to keep on trucking as it is.

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                  #39

                  @eniko If you are asking for less you are asking too much 😉

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                  • me@social.jlamothe.netM me@social.jlamothe.net
                    @badtux @eniko I'm so glad I don't typically work in Java.
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                    #40

                    @me @eniko Substitute any other language or framework in large scale use for Java. Go? Rust? JavaScript/TypeScript? Even where the language is stable the frameworks you have to use to get work done are as firm as gelatin.

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                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                      #41

                      @eniko and at the same time, companies hire people who prefer AI, f̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶agile; or as the saying goes, seniors with salary of a junior 🙂

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                        #42

                        @eniko The dream that we deserve!

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                          #43

                          @eniko I picked up Tinystart for the Mac by @nileane which is probably exactly the sort of thing you’re after. It’s as useful as Raycast but without all the VC and AI bollocks, and only costs a fiver.

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                            #44

                            @eniko bring back rating code by size.

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                              #45

                              @eniko

                              The general rule of thumb seems to be: The further you go back in time, the better the products, be they online or offline.

                              All courtesy of the fucked-up neoliberal capitalism that's festering across the whole world.

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                #46

                                @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                                • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

                                  @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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                                  #47

                                  @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

                                  I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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                                  • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                                    @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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                                    #48

                                    @badtux @eniko
                                    Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                      #49

                                      @eniko
                                      I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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                                      • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

                                        @me @badtux @eniko
                                        It's like building on quicksand.

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                                        #50

                                        @kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
                                        ..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit? 🤔

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                                          #51

                                          @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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