We strongly oppose the Unified Attestation initiative and call for app developers supporting privacy, security and freedom on mobile to avoid it.
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We strongly oppose the Unified Attestation initiative and call for app developers supporting privacy, security and freedom on mobile to avoid it. Companies selling phones should not be deciding which operating systems people are allowed to use for apps.
@GrapheneOS
Is this (unified attestation) an analog of whatever it is that google does in apps that ends up with things like banking apps needing google services? Or am I thinking of something completely different? -
Is it me or grapheneos is only supporters on google pixel models ?
If yes why should we give money to google ?@Paul_stilgar @GrapheneOS @dristor If you want any phone, go buy any phone. You can't put any mobile OS on any smart phone.
Why does the semiconductor industry rely on ASML? Because they have the best most suitable lithography.
Mobile security relies on the latest hardware security, firmware security, update support. Many manufacturers have mediocre standards in keeping up. Pixels unfortunately have been the only phones that meet GOS requirements. Motorola is working to on some future devices.
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@GrapheneOS
It's very unfortunate that I'm obviously only reaching an arrogant chat bot here. I had hoped to get in touch with the creators of GrapheneOS.@isf @GrapheneOS You are talking to the creators of GrapheneOS. They do not put a chatbot behind the official account.
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@GrapheneOS sounds like they are just trying to ride the wave of Europe trying to break free of their reliance on american digital companies, which I completely agree, to grab power for themselves, which is still shitty and nothing to celebrate.
Thankfully my bank's app still works fine with gos and they also allow full web access anyway
@eskuero @GrapheneOS would I be wrong to say that this alternative attestation would still preferable to Play Store Integrity? Perhaps there is some background to the people behind it that I am missing.
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@GrapheneOS @eskuero oh, well of course! Has UAT indicated that they would, or is the concern more an expectation that they would follow in Google's footsteps and reject "unofficial" Android versions?
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@GrapheneOS aber dann würde es ja ausreichen, wenn ihr diese Falschinformationen über euer eigenes Betriebssystem berichtigt. Statt dessen kritisiert ihr hier pausenlos andere Betriebssysteme. Ich halte eure Öffentlichkeitsarbeit für fatal, so sehr ich GraphenOS schätze und bereits seit Jahren nutze.
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@GrapheneOS aber dann würde es ja ausreichen, wenn ihr diese Falschinformationen über euer eigenes Betriebssystem berichtigt. Statt dessen kritisiert ihr hier pausenlos andere Betriebssysteme. Ich halte eure Öffentlichkeitsarbeit für fatal, so sehr ich GraphenOS schätze und bereits seit Jahren nutze.
@GrapheneOS Ich verstehe euren Krieg gegen andere Custom-ROMs nicht. Eure eigentlichen Gegner sind doch die proprietären Betriebssysteme von Apple und Google, nicht andere Betriebssysteme, die von einer ganz kleinen Minderheit genutzt werden.
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@GrapheneOS Ich hätte gerne mal Quellen, wo andere Custom-Rom negativ über GrapheneOS schreiben. Bislang lese ich nur, was ihr über andere Betriebsysteme wie Volla, murena, lineageos Negatives schreibt.
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@GrapheneOS Ich hätte gerne mal Quellen, wo andere Custom-Rom negativ über GrapheneOS schreiben. Bislang lese ich nur, was ihr über andere Betriebsysteme wie Volla, murena, lineageos Negatives schreibt.
@MrGR Daran bin ich auch interessiert. @GrapheneOS
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There's no legitimate purpose for either Play Integrity or Unified Attestation to exist. Both will inherently fail to uphold even basic security standards since otherwise their own products wouldn't be allowed. Root-based attestation is also inherently not a secure approach.
@GrapheneOS I would like to say Thank You! GrapheneOS devs for giving us the best Privacy and Security on a phone and also a LOT of Peace of Mind for the privacy concious people.
Also been using it for a month now and I pretty much like it even if I had to get a Pixel for it, it was worth it! -
Play Integrity API should be regulated out of existence rather than making another system where companies permit their own products while disallowing others. It shouldn't be legal when Google does it and it shouldn't be legal when Volla and Murena do it either. This is wrong.
@GrapheneOS
Is there any European citizen initiative to ban this kind of things? Can you help writing one? I would sign it -
Murena and iodé are extremely hostile towards GrapheneOS. They've spent years misleading people about it with inaccurate claims to promote their insecure products. We'll never work with them. Volla, Murena and iodé should have no say in which OS people can use on their devices.
@GrapheneOS seeing frequent hostility and drama come out of this account makes me want to switch off of GOS, despite really liking it. It makes me feel uncertain about the sustainability of the project and the character of people behind it. Hopefully the constant drama I am seeing doesn't represent the overall culture of the project. If not, please get someone else to manage the socials!
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@GrapheneOS I would like to say Thank You! GrapheneOS devs for giving us the best Privacy and Security on a phone and also a LOT of Peace of Mind for the privacy concious people.
Also been using it for a month now and I pretty much like it even if I had to get a Pixel for it, it was worth it!@GrapheneOS Also I really hope that Android won't have the same fate as iOS, otherwise our only open-source option remaining is Linux.
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@neogoth es scheint hier um interne Grabenkämpfe und persönliche Beleidigungen zu handeln. Wie schade! Es gibt doch wichtigeres zu tun, Menschen Alternativen zu #bigtech anbieten und sie zu überzeugen. @GrapheneOS
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We strongly oppose the Unified Attestation initiative and call for app developers supporting privacy, security and freedom on mobile to avoid it. Companies selling phones should not be deciding which operating systems people are allowed to use for apps.
@GrapheneOS kind reminder that you supported from the beginning Goolag-backed vendor-lockin in pro of security.
This is just the final extension of it.
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@zaire
> we built The European torment nexus, as we don't require the orphan crushing machine to be included in our torment nexus. -
@zaire
> we built The European torment nexus, as we don't require the orphan crushing machine to be included in our torment nexus.@Moepmoep @GrapheneOS @eskuero we only crush non-orphans, yes
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Volla, Murena and iodé sell products with atrocious security. They fail to provide important patches and protections while misleading users with inaccurate claims about privacy and security. That includes setting an inaccurate Android security patch level despite missing patches.
@GrapheneOS @volla These type of divisive debates weaken the community and are the biggest gift to Google & Big Tech. We don't need fighting among the community. On the contrary, let's put the effort in building a large and diverse free/libre ecosystem in mobile computing.
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@GrapheneOS aber dann würde es ja ausreichen, wenn ihr diese Falschinformationen über euer eigenes Betriebssystem berichtigt. Statt dessen kritisiert ihr hier pausenlos andere Betriebssysteme. Ich halte eure Öffentlichkeitsarbeit für fatal, so sehr ich GraphenOS schätze und bereits seit Jahren nutze.
@MrGR We post factual information about the falsely marketed products from companies attacking GrapheneOS in response to their attacks. You're misrepresenting the situation and what we said. It's the opposite of supporting a project you use which is provided to you entirely for free.
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@GrapheneOS Ich verstehe euren Krieg gegen andere Custom-ROMs nicht. Eure eigentlichen Gegner sind doch die proprietären Betriebssysteme von Apple und Google, nicht andere Betriebssysteme, die von einer ganz kleinen Minderheit genutzt werden.
@MrGR They've waged a war against GrapheneOS and our team for years. No amount of misrepresentations from you about the situation and what we've said/done is going to change reality. The real enemies of GrapheneOS are the people trying to harm GrapheneOS and our team. Apple has done nothing to try to harm GrapheneOS. Apple makes products with substance behind their privacy and security claims. We wish Apple didn't have such an aversion to giving credit to others but it's not an attack on us.
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