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https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today.

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  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

    https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

    geotux@social.tchncs.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @osm_tech thanks for the good work

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    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

      https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

      isibboi@mastodon.onlineI This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @osm_tech the scrapers don't know that you can torrent the whole OSM for free, without ddosing the webservice

      osm_tech@en.osm.townO geospacedman@mastodon.socialG 2 Replies Last reply
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      • isibboi@mastodon.onlineI isibboi@mastodon.online

        @osm_tech the scrapers don't know that you can torrent the whole OSM for free, without ddosing the webservice

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        #6

        @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

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        • isibboi@mastodon.onlineI isibboi@mastodon.online

          @osm_tech the scrapers don't know that you can torrent the whole OSM for free, without ddosing the webservice

          geospacedman@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @ISibboI @osm_tech Is there a torrent for the tiles? Or just the world file? Are they scraping tiles?

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          • geospacedman@mastodon.socialG geospacedman@mastodon.social

            @ISibboI @osm_tech Is there a torrent for the tiles? Or just the world file? Are they scraping tiles?

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            #8

            @geospacedman @ISibboI They are scraping the website pages: /ways/, /nodes/ and /relations/. All this data is published on planet.osm.org already.

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            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

              @geospacedman @ISibboI They are scraping the website pages: /ways/, /nodes/ and /relations/. All this data is published on planet.osm.org already.

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              #9

              @osm_tech @ISibboI Oh that's so much worse than I'd imagined.

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              • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                rudirastlos@troet.cafeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #10

                @osm_tech 🫣 thank you for your work!

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                • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                  https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                  justin@mastodon.tacoma.communityJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @osm_tech
                  https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-linux-botnet-sshstalker-uses-old-school-irc-for-c2-comms/

                  Wonder if related.

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                  • justin@mastodon.tacoma.communityJ justin@mastodon.tacoma.community

                    @osm_tech
                    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-linux-botnet-sshstalker-uses-old-school-irc-for-c2-comms/

                    Wonder if related.

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                    #12

                    @justin No. Background: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/04/01/how-crawlers-impact-the-operations-of-the-wikimedia-projects/ and https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/disrupting-largest-residential-proxy-network

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                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                      https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                      #13

                      Oof, sorry you are dealing with that load. Beyond blocklists, caching tiles plus aggressive rate limits per ASN, and serving 429s with Retry-After can help. For bulk use, requiring API keys for heavy endpoints can also cut abuse. Thanks for keeping OSM running.

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                      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                        https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                        #14

                        @osm_tech Ugh, I am so sorry to hear this, and thank you to everyone working on this project.

                        Such a nightmare, and so completely pointless. 🤬

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                        • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                          @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

                          pesasa@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          @ISibboI @osm_tech I think, that spreading it on 100 000+ IP addresses tells they know they are doing shady thing.

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                          • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                            https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                            #16

                            @osm_tech@en.osm.town
                            Time to deploy Anubis in front of all the URLs that the scrapers are hitting.

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                            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                              https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                              tomchadwin@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #17

                              @osm_tech Good luck, and thank you as always.

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                              • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                                don_clemente@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                @osm_tech wonder if it is collateral damage or intended, to get rid of alternative sources of information?
                                Anyway, zip-bomb the hell out of them.

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                                • don_clemente@chaos.socialD don_clemente@chaos.social

                                  @osm_tech wonder if it is collateral damage or intended, to get rid of alternative sources of information?
                                  Anyway, zip-bomb the hell out of them.

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                                  #19

                                  @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB 😉

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                                  • gme@bofh.socialG gme@bofh.social

                                    @osm_tech@en.osm.town
                                    Time to deploy Anubis in front of all the URLs that the scrapers are hitting.

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                                    #20

                                    @gme Anubis is great, but not ideal for us. We have reasonable technical mitigations in place, but it is unfortunately an arms race (and time/resource blackhole)

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                                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                      @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB 😉

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                                      #21

                                      @osm_tech yes, but that's heavy on your resources and bandwidth. A zip file of 10GB Zeros is much more resource-efficient on your side 😉

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                                      • pesasa@mastodon.socialP pesasa@mastodon.social

                                        @ISibboI @osm_tech I think, that spreading it on 100 000+ IP addresses tells they know they are doing shady thing.

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                                        #22

                                        @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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                                        • G gerardthornley@hachyderm.io

                                          @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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                                          #23

                                          @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech
                                          If its helpful (if you want to stuff something unpleasant down their throats), I believe @jwz has been making a 'json bomb' for (AIUI) pretty much this purpose:
                                          https://mastodon.social/@jwz/116049057703097965

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