#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device.
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@jwildeboer sommige mensen, zoals Erwin Blom, vinden het juist geweldig dat iedereen zijn eigen app kan bouwen naar eigen inzicht. Erwin Blom vergelijkt het zelfs met de punk tijd.
@heleenkuiper Het lijkt me meer punk een eigen website te maken die iedereen meteen kan zien
Als je een app wilt publiceren betekent dat toch ook dat je die pas na controle en vergunning in de App Store ziet. Niet echt punk, toch? -
@jwildeboer *sigh*
@lobingera @jwildeboer
Why does Google's stock Calculator, Gallery, Messages (I only use SMS on that, Viber for Internet messages), Phone, Contacts and File Browser all by default send stuff to Internet?Rhetorical question.
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
@jwildeboer Alternatively "Fapptigue", no?
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@lobingera @jwildeboer
Google server(s) on the Internet. -
I noticed that I simply stopped caring about new apps a few years ago. When I get a new mobile phone, I have a rather small set of apps I install and that list is more or less the same since many years. Banking app, Signal, and a few more.
@jwildeboer
I recently installed a web shortcut for AliExpress, Vinted and LeBonCoin instead of installing matching apps and granting unnecessary and intruding authorisations -
#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
When I first got a smartphone, I was install all the apps.
I quickly realised I didn't need most of them.
Now the number of apps on my phone are basically.
Disabled or removed as much of the google shit as possible.
2 banking apps
Heating system app (not full of data harvesting)
2 Solar/Battery apps ( manufacturer one has been nerfed with subscriptions, replacement allows me access to my data again) Bought the paid version of the 2nd app.
2 messaging apps (what's app for family, signal for everyone else)
Google wallet
What3Words
Netfix
Grayjay (for youtube vids)
Emby (for my home mediaserver)
Kindle (for my own ebooks, would like to replace with something else)
Musicolet - for listening to my own music stored on my own phone.
WifiFileTransferPro - To transfer files to my device over my wifi, ad/tracking free and I paid a few quid for the pro version.
Firefox web browser
Brave web browser
DuckDuckGo app with tracking protection enabled and a duck.com email address for online signups.
Tusky app for Mastodon
Ebay app
Amazon app (cancelled prime 3yrs ago) should probably delete as rarely used.
Proton VPN app.That's basically it... there are a couple of netflix games, mahjong and solitaire I occasionally use when out and waiting for people.
All permissions are disabled for everything unless essential for the app to work, DDG app tracking blocks a lot of 3rd party attempts at data collection... but banking apps have to be disabled from DDG or they don't work.
I don't need anything else... and I could probably get rid of 10-20% of what I have.
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
Also, similar, https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/6421/ @jwildeboer
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I noticed that I simply stopped caring about new apps a few years ago. When I get a new mobile phone, I have a rather small set of apps I install and that list is more or less the same since many years. Banking app, Signal, and a few more.
@jwildeboer Essentially Signal + home-page links only for me. Definitely no banking or anything else 'YMYL'...
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
@jwildeboer afaic this was edited now 4-times: i recommend a wikipedia article
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@jwildeboer looking forward to it
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
@jwildeboer you are a website, being installed as an app is a privilege, not a right
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
@jwildeboer Websites are Blackboxs, too. You don’t see what backend does
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@jwildeboer Alternatively "Fapptigue", no?
@LucPestille
I see what you did there
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
@jwildeboer I have RethinkDNS app on my phone so I can see what domains an app is contacting. I can then block a domain the app is contacting, block the entire app from using the net while I still have wifi or data active and some more stuff.
It's really useful to me cos it's also like a Little Snitch or pihole but runs in your phone and just has more features. It's also free and open source.
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@jwildeboer I have RethinkDNS app on my phone so I can see what domains an app is contacting. I can then block a domain the app is contacting, block the entire app from using the net while I still have wifi or data active and some more stuff.
It's really useful to me cos it's also like a Little Snitch or pihole but runs in your phone and just has more features. It's also free and open source.
@jwildeboer It's also kinda "cheating" cos I can just have no ads on an ad-ridden free version of an app (if theres a paid version of that app but without ads and stuff) while i still have internet access.
I kinda feel bad cos that might be their only source of revenue, but who actually likes seeing ads like it's a freakin' jumpscare ?
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
a long time ago, at a conference, a guy from Google gave a talk about the cool new thing, "instant apps". Android apps that you don't need to install. just open them and start using right away! and it will only download the pages you open. crazy!
when the time for QA came, people formed a long queue to the mic. i was the first. i asked: "so, how is it different from web apps?". the minute i said it, almost everyone left the queue, muttering: "damn, that was my question".
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a long time ago, at a conference, a guy from Google gave a talk about the cool new thing, "instant apps". Android apps that you don't need to install. just open them and start using right away! and it will only download the pages you open. crazy!
when the time for QA came, people formed a long queue to the mic. i was the first. i asked: "so, how is it different from web apps?". the minute i said it, almost everyone left the queue, muttering: "damn, that was my question".
i don't remember their exact answer because there wasn't really any. many years later, in December 2025, Google discontinued instant apps.
i think they were onto something. it's cool to be able to just use apps without installing them. it's just... we already have it.
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
@jwildeboer You also can't install an ad-blocker in an app.
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#AppFatigue IPA: /æp/ /fəˈtiːɡ/ (n) The tendency to NOT install new apps on your mobile phone because you finally understand that most apps should just be a website so you can seamlessly use a service on a PC, laptop, tablet or mobile device. Also a sign of distrust as apps are black boxes with access to a lot of data sources that invade your privacy in ways you can hardly quantify.
@jwildeboer Very reasonable.
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@jwildeboer It's also kinda "cheating" cos I can just have no ads on an ad-ridden free version of an app (if theres a paid version of that app but without ads and stuff) while i still have internet access.
I kinda feel bad cos that might be their only source of revenue, but who actually likes seeing ads like it's a freakin' jumpscare ?
@reallylazybear @jwildeboer similar for me; some apps are unavoidable, but at least I can have some control over them via Tracker Control:
