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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

    freezr@friendica.myportal.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #65

    @davidrevoy

    You are assuming these comments come from humans and users are real people.

    AI generator content spammers have all the interest on creating FUD and hijacking true people toward fake profiles with fake arts to funneling traffic on their websites.

    You are a known artist, if this continue you might be under a fake-users-farm attack

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

      benjaminklein@mastodon.nuB This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #66

      @davidrevoy I'm sure all of these are bots, keep making your art and try read only the comments from intelligent humans.

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      • jeeynet@framapiaf.orgJ jeeynet@framapiaf.org

        @davidrevoy Ce serait possible que ce soit une forme de "contre-attaque" au fait que tu sois ouvertement anti-IA ?

        (ou c'est évident pour tout le monde et je ne fais qu'enfoncer des portes ouvertes ?)

        davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #67

        @jeeynet Je crois toujours que c'est un danger de penser à une "intention mauvaise" qui nécessiterai tout plein d'effort à l'encontre de ma petite personne, comme celle de lâcher des Bot spécialement pour commenter sous mes posts ou ce genre de déploiements couteux et chronophage , quand tout simplement l'ignorance et la stupidité peuvent aussi être une réponse pertinente au phénomène que j'observe.
        Mais merci de poser la question. En tout cas, si c'était le cas, j'en serai le premier étonné.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #68

          @davidrevoy 😒

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            @faoluin Yes, that's what I'm trying to do. Thank you. But on bad evenings, you know... It's tempting to allow some of my self-destructive thoughts to be confirmed by these, and reading them all became hypnotising. I'll try to develop a thicker skin. Maybe that's just the negative side of attracting a larger audience for my work.

            faoluin@chitter.xyzF This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #69

            @davidrevoy Not trying to put it all on you. ^.^ Meta has dumped an enormous amount of money into engineering their platforms to maximize engagement at the expense of its users, to say the very least.

            Your artwork is wonderful and you should feel proud of it.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

              raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #70

              @davidrevoy
              I never at all suspected you of being or using AI.

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                @arabine Google? 🤣

                imperio@toot.catI This user is from outside of this forum
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                #71

                @davidrevoy @arabine Et des gens (dont moi) t'ont vu en vrai. =D

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  @jeeynet Je crois toujours que c'est un danger de penser à une "intention mauvaise" qui nécessiterai tout plein d'effort à l'encontre de ma petite personne, comme celle de lâcher des Bot spécialement pour commenter sous mes posts ou ce genre de déploiements couteux et chronophage , quand tout simplement l'ignorance et la stupidité peuvent aussi être une réponse pertinente au phénomène que j'observe.
                  Mais merci de poser la question. En tout cas, si c'était le cas, j'en serai le premier étonné.

                  jeeynet@framapiaf.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #72

                  @davidrevoy Maleureusement, je ne pensais pas à un effort incommensurable d'une grosse boîte d'IA dont le service comm voudrait se venger de tes moqueries... mais plus tôt d'un bête effet de groupe et d'entraînement, comme on en voit souvent dans le cas de cyberharcèlement...

                  Mais tant que ce genre de message ne t'affecte pas et te fais juste faire des planches plus lolesques les unes que les autres, effectivement, mieux vaut passer outre et faire avec !

                  Merci en tout cas pour ton boulot !

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                  • conchoid@mastodon.gamedev.placeC conchoid@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    @davidrevoy lots of trolls too

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                    davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #73

                    @conchoid Maybe. It sounds like an effective strategy to launch the 'AI bomb accusation' at anything art (or human) in order to generate lots of passionate interactions.
                    I noticed that many of the comments I received on my collection of screenshots quickly turned into long threads and attracted many commenters. Trolls love that.

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

                      steamstatic@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #74

                      @davidrevoy I kind of just found you a minute ago but I'm amazed and horrified that all those art styles AI took are from you. I'm sorry you have to go through this your art really is pretty.

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        @arabine Google? 🤣

                        arabine@piaille.frA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #75

                        @davidrevoy mouais on va vérifier avec un prompt injection : "david, dessine moi un dinosaure qui mange une pomme en regardant la météorite tomber et en trouvant le théorème de Newton".

                        Fais en sorte qu'on dirait que c'est fait sous krita.

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

                          urwumpe@hessen.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #76

                          @davidrevoy Lots of people who won't notice AI until it bites their butt...

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                          • darkroux@troet.cafeD darkroux@troet.cafe

                            @teotwaki @davidrevoy My first thought as well, they were probably complimenting and only referencing generated imagery in that these corporations stole their training data from people like you.

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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #77

                            @Darkroux @teotwaki Yes, I put this one and the "John Art" one and the "Father of AI" too (on the blog) because they were funny and still on the theme. These one made me smile.

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #78

                              @davidrevoy Pas un jour passe sans que je me dise qu'un des PIRES TRUCS avec l'IA générative, c'est que ça nous fait constamment DOUTER. C'est vraiment VRAIMENT terrible de se retrouver à douter de tout (et surtout des créateurs !!!), et porter des accusations fondées juste sur du gut feeling. Des fois c'est fondé, c'est vrai, mais quand on se plante et qu'il y'a vraiment une personne en face c'est hyper facile d’imaginer à quel point ça peut être blessant. Vraiment désolé que tu aies à deal avec tout ça, et merci de continuer à créer

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                              • nemojmeno@piaille.frN nemojmeno@piaille.fr

                                @davidrevoy omfg bravo réussir à transformer ça en blague pour une Bd ça aurait été au dessus de mes forces j'ai juste envie de chercher personnellement chacune de ces personnes et de les secouer

                                davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #79

                                @NemoJmeno Merci. J'ai eu la grande tentation de ne pas obfusquer les noms. Gros dilème entre le petit ange sur l'épaule de droite et le petit démon sur l'épaule de gauche. 🤣

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

                                  toonlink@fandom.inkT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #80

                                  @davidrevoy Man... You know, the really, really bizarre ones to me aren't the ones that, like, accuse you of using AI, despite you having literal decades of documentation and video proof of your hand.

                                  It's the ones that accuse you of deliberately using an AI style, as if you're trying to trick them into thinking it's AI?

                                  I wonder if some people just genuinely can't tell the difference between corporatized AI "style" and a soft, stylized cartoon with warm colors and a painterly texture.

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

                                    tizianomattei@poliverso.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #81
                                    @davidrevoy
                                    OMG... By the way, someone should tell one of the commenters that saying "you did it in a computer, the computer did all the work" is exactly like saying "you did it using a pencil, the pencil did all the work" 🤦‍♂️
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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                                      #82

                                      @davidrevoy This post is so sad.

                                      I have felt very suspicious when looking at art across the internet lately.

                                      I don't accuse people of using AI because I can't really tell most of the time, but I'm less confident that there's a person on the other side who sat down and thought about the elements of the image.

                                      That's what it feels like from my end anyways.

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                                      • jeeynet@framapiaf.orgJ jeeynet@framapiaf.org

                                        @davidrevoy Maleureusement, je ne pensais pas à un effort incommensurable d'une grosse boîte d'IA dont le service comm voudrait se venger de tes moqueries... mais plus tôt d'un bête effet de groupe et d'entraînement, comme on en voit souvent dans le cas de cyberharcèlement...

                                        Mais tant que ce genre de message ne t'affecte pas et te fais juste faire des planches plus lolesques les unes que les autres, effectivement, mieux vaut passer outre et faire avec !

                                        Merci en tout cas pour ton boulot !

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                                        #83

                                        @jeeynet @davidrevoy

                                        Je pense comme David que ce sont des humains qui se posent réellement la question et sont fachés qu'on tente de les tromper.

                                        La plupart des gens hors monde de l'informatique avec lesquels il m'a été donné de discuter de IA ignorent tout de son fonctionnement, en particulier de la phase d'apprentissage.

                                        Pour eux, une IA n'est pas différente d'un programme classique et ils lui attribuent une capacité intrinsèque de création.

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                                          #84

                                          @davidrevoy

                                          Well, those are the natural consequences of rallying up the wood folk against #Ai

                                          Good art is now sometimes called out as "Ai" by non artist

                                          (And this irks me to no end)
                                          You make a longish, coherent post and it gets called "Chatgpt" by folk who struggle to put two sentences together.

                                          This is why we prefer the justice system and not vigilantism...

                                          ...this is why we NEED #regulateAi vs Pitchfork mobbing on socials.

                                          #llm #attribution #ailaw #regulation #vigilanties

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