If you lived in a world where smoking was returning in full force—through unethical, manipulative, and probably illegal tactics tobacco use was returning to 1960s levels—would you work within the tobacco industry to make it less bad?
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If you lived in a world where smoking was returning in full force—through unethical, manipulative, and probably illegal tactics tobacco use was returning to 1960s levels—would you work within the tobacco industry to make it less bad? "Nicotine is an excellent ADHD drug so it can help accessibility!"
Because this is exactly what people in the tech industry are starting to sound like.
@baldur I think the analogy is fair to a point. There’s a difference between acknowledging that a technology can have legitimate uses and using those benefits to justify an industry or system whose broader incentives may be harmful. Saying “nicotine can help people with ADHD” doesn’t erase the harm caused by deliberately expanding nicotine addiction. In the same way, pointing out the benefits of tech or AI shouldn’t become an excuse to ignore the ways the industry can manipulate people
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If you lived in a world where smoking was returning in full force—through unethical, manipulative, and probably illegal tactics tobacco use was returning to 1960s levels—would you work within the tobacco industry to make it less bad? "Nicotine is an excellent ADHD drug so it can help accessibility!"
Because this is exactly what people in the tech industry are starting to sound like.
@baldur I don't want to, unfortunately i have a mortgage to pay and in my defence the industry pivoted to cancer sticks after I'd reached a senior position (too senior to easier switch career, not senior enough to change course)
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If you lived in a world where smoking was returning in full force—through unethical, manipulative, and probably illegal tactics tobacco use was returning to 1960s levels—would you work within the tobacco industry to make it less bad? "Nicotine is an excellent ADHD drug so it can help accessibility!"
Because this is exactly what people in the tech industry are starting to sound like.
@baldur
I don't know if you're talking about ai dependence or the very real problem of tech companies pushing dip/snoose on their employees -
If you lived in a world where smoking was returning in full force—through unethical, manipulative, and probably illegal tactics tobacco use was returning to 1960s levels—would you work within the tobacco industry to make it less bad? "Nicotine is an excellent ADHD drug so it can help accessibility!"
Because this is exactly what people in the tech industry are starting to sound like.
@baldur "I can only relax with a cig in my hand.
Stop disciminate me. I neeeeeedddd nikotineeeee. " - Some smokers probably. -
@baldur I have bad news for you about nicotine.
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If you lived in a world where smoking was returning in full force—through unethical, manipulative, and probably illegal tactics tobacco use was returning to 1960s levels—would you work within the tobacco industry to make it less bad? "Nicotine is an excellent ADHD drug so it can help accessibility!"
Because this is exactly what people in the tech industry are starting to sound like.
@baldur …well…smoking is making a strong comeback…an insanely strong one. Via weed (there are dispensaries all over) and vaping (where they wildly outnumber liquor stores). Add in all the edibles/smokeless…and cigars moving upscale…
Smoking never left…tobacco left. Like with tech it just switched vice. Gambling went tech too. Sex. None of those people went anywhere. They just adjusted. Exactly like the Techbros… -
If you lived in a world where smoking was returning in full force—through unethical, manipulative, and probably illegal tactics tobacco use was returning to 1960s levels—would you work within the tobacco industry to make it less bad? "Nicotine is an excellent ADHD drug so it can help accessibility!"
Because this is exactly what people in the tech industry are starting to sound like.
@baldur It's really funny how people will happily work to make the world worse at big tech for years on end then suddenly grow a conscience and quit the moment their equity fully vests -
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@H4Heights @baldur https://www.amazon.com/Blitzed-Drugs-Third-Norman-Ohler/dp/1328663795
A lot "ADD" diagnosese are just speed freaks going to croakers in the US. Of course, if you point this out...
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If you lived in a world where smoking was returning in full force—through unethical, manipulative, and probably illegal tactics tobacco use was returning to 1960s levels—would you work within the tobacco industry to make it less bad? "Nicotine is an excellent ADHD drug so it can help accessibility!"
Because this is exactly what people in the tech industry are starting to sound like.
@baldur this is what I've been thinking about my own industry (marketing). It will take a while to get into the new career I'm aiming for, but working on it!
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LOL. Palantir.
Not that its execs would realize it, but by stocking its offices with nicotine pouches, they are resurrecting the products that fueled the original Industrial Revolution: caffeine, nicotine, and sugar.
Coffee and tea, tobacco, and sugar, produced by slaves, were the food substitutes that fed industrial workers in their dark, Satanic mills. All that's missing is weak porridge and break with a little bacon fat or occasionally butter.
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LOL. Palantir.
Not that its execs would realize it, but by stocking its offices with nicotine pouches, they are resurrecting the products that fueled the original Industrial Revolution: caffeine, nicotine, and sugar.
Coffee and tea, tobacco, and sugar, produced by slaves, were the food substitutes that fed industrial workers in their dark, Satanic mills. All that's missing is weak porridge and break with a little bacon fat or occasionally butter.
@huntingdon @baldur Oh I'm pretty sure the execs know what they are doing
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