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@Flowermob I do think part of that is how much stigma there apparently is around admitting you're wrong. I noticed I got in a lot less fights and the fights I got into disengaged a lot quicker when I got over my shit and started saying shit like "yeah, when you put it that way, I think you might be right." or "I looked into it and it turns out I was wrong."
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@Flowermob Alas, it was only during "the Age of Enlightenment" when facts held some sort of place of pride. Now we live in "the Age of narcissists". It matters how big your audience is, and how compelling of an emotional appeal you can make, based on true-ish, passionate statements. It's just a bunch of so-called "Narcissistic shared fantasies" now, pretty much everyone wandering and bumbling - precisely like medieval buffoons - into various toxic, cult-like ideologies
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@Flowermob Random guys on the internet “my opinion is right” irrespective of any feedback or fact.
This is the drivel AI is trained on and we are all being cajoled or enticed to invite it into our lives. Alongside all the other spy tech (anything termed ‘smart’) already baked into everything.
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@Flowermob Sometimes it works -- at least a little. I've had online discussions where I've presented facts which lead to several encouraging exchanges. Being able to explain things helps too. Don't just say "it's X!" -- link to an excellent source that explains it. You know you've made a difference if they start asking questions. It's super important to keep a neutral and friendly tone. And also know when to quit if the fact-approach doesn't show any promise.
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@Flowermob has anyone ever considered that this person is lying btw?
@_r @Flowermob yeah this seems like too perfect of a setup
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@Flowermob The take away of this is that science works, and that doesn't change how people think.
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@Flowermob it would have created a contradiction otherwise, this guy just saved the universe. -
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@Flowermob People *do* change their minds when you show them facts -- but not the person you're arguing with. When I'm arguing, I'm arguing for the sake of the audience, those who have no oar in either boat and can be persuaded to either side. i already realize that for example a hardcore Notsee is not going to change his mind about what should be done with untermenschen. I argue for the sake of keeping gullible kids from adopting the same horrifying ideology, not to convince him of anything.
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What is "True" depends on who you talked to.
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@Flowermob I think the datte must be wrong by about 10 years on the quote
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@Flowermob I think planting questions may be more effective than facts. If they grow, they can trigger the thrill of discovery.
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@Flowermob Alternative facts sgain?
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Screenshot of a tweet posted by Catherine na Nollag @cafernblue on the 10th of december 2019
It reads : I still think my favorite thing that's ever happened to me on the internet is the Time a guy said "people change their mindq when you show them facts" and I said *actually studies show that's nor true" and linked TWO (two written in capslock) sources and he said "yeah well I still thinks it works"The screenshots shows 9164 retweets and 46.8 likes
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@Flowermob Alternative facts sgain?
@Iveyline What?
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