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  3. Stop saying stupid stuff like: "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

Stop saying stupid stuff like: "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    Stop saying stupid stuff like:
    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

    Start saying:
    "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

    stylus@social.afront.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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    stylus@social.afront.org
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    #110

    @Tutanota an innocent government has nothing to hide from its citizens

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      Stop saying stupid stuff like:
      "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

      Start saying:
      "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

      vascorsd@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
      vascorsd@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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      #111

      @Tutanota but if it's free then you are the product. What's the catch

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      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

        Stop saying stupid stuff like:
        "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

        Start saying:
        "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

        max@toet.dnzm.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
        max@toet.dnzm.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #112

        @Tutanota The question "do you have anything to hide?" is the wrong one. The correct question is "is it any of their business?", and the answer usually is "fuck no".

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        • pkoopmanpk@mastodon.nlP pkoopmanpk@mastodon.nl

          @Npars01 Pascal Bornet is an AI pioneer and influencer, so if he is the source, I think it's a save bet to assume AI in this case.

          j_lighter@privacysafe.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #113

          @pkoopmanpk @Npars01 I see. But not only that, I could recognize it from the style.

          And after some seconds I could verify from this

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          • j_lighter@privacysafe.socialJ j_lighter@privacysafe.social

            @pkoopmanpk @Npars01 I see. But not only that, I could recognize it from the style.

            And after some seconds I could verify from this

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            pkoopmanpk@mastodon.nl
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            #114

            @j_lighter I try not to judge it on style. For example, @davidrevoy 's art gets called AI because of his style. AI steals art, so this style has an official artist. But I do agree that this style is used a lot in other AI slop.

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              Stop saying stupid stuff like:
              "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

              Start saying:
              "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

              vlk@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
              vlk@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #115

              @Tutanota The best response to this I have heard comes from Finch in Person of Interest.

              "People who say that they have nothing to hide, usually do."

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                Start saying:
                "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                mayk@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
                mayk@mastodon.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
                mayk@mastodon.nl
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #116

                @Tutanota Privacy is important!

                and it should start at Privacy standard friendly Gmail, Youtube, Facebook, Whatsapp, Outlook, Office, etc

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                  "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                  Start saying:
                  "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                  knowprose@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                  knowprose@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #117

                  @Tutanota I just ask them what color their underwear is. And to prove it.

                  Makes the point quickly.

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                    Start saying:
                    "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                    ahmedelqadey@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                    ahmedelqadey@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                    ahmedelqadey@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #118

                    @Tutanota Nice words about privacy, but the actual practice tells a different story. You market yourselves as the ethical alternative to Google, criticizing how it disrespects user privacy. So how am I supposed to understand that when I use a VPN to protect my identity, you block me from creating an account? I get that this might be to prevent fraud, but the result is that you're tying my account to my real location from the very first moment.

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                    • ahmedelqadey@mastodon.socialA ahmedelqadey@mastodon.social

                      @Tutanota Nice words about privacy, but the actual practice tells a different story. You market yourselves as the ethical alternative to Google, criticizing how it disrespects user privacy. So how am I supposed to understand that when I use a VPN to protect my identity, you block me from creating an account? I get that this might be to prevent fraud, but the result is that you're tying my account to my real location from the very first moment.

                      ahmedelqadey@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #119

                      @Tutanota The issue isn't that you're making a security tradeoff it's that you talk about privacy as if it's absolute, without being upfront about exceptions like this one. If your privacy has limits, say so honestly, instead of marketing it as if it's complete.

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                        "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                        Start saying:
                        "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                        lionvibration@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #120

                        @Tutanota A free country doesn't tax the poor

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                          "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                          Start saying:
                          "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                          vero@moe.onlV This user is from outside of this forum
                          vero@moe.onlV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #121

                          @Tutanota@mastodon.social a free country?

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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                            "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                            Start saying:
                            "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                            argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org
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                            #122

                            @Tutanota

                            “If you have nothing to suspect, you have nothing to surveil.”

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                            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                              Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                              "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                              Start saying:
                              "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                              iju@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #123

                              @Tutanota

                              If we didn't have nothing to hide, passwords wouldn't be a thing. ☝🏻

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                              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                Start saying:
                                "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                                network@cmx.dongzhim.inN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #124

                                @Tutanota 中国是最自由的国家

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                                • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                  @Tutanota

                                  "I am fine with surveillance, I haven't done anything wrong"
                                  Second person "until someone changes the definition of 'wrong' ."

                                  k_leyton_cooper@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #125

                                  @Npars01 @Tutanota
                                  True dat❗❗❗

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                                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                    Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                    "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                    Start saying:
                                    "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                                    yora@mastodon.gamedev.placeY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    yora@mastodon.gamedev.place
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #126

                                    @Tutanota Just because you did nothing wrong, doesn't mean an evil regime won't persecute for it.

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                                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                      Stop saying stupid stuff like:
                                      "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

                                      Start saying:
                                      "A free country doesn't track innocent citizens."

                                      miquel@dice.campM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #127

                                      @Tutanota the problem with this rhetoric is that implies that it is only bad when governments do it (it's the libertarian idea that "only the government can do violence").

                                      Of course, I want authorities to be able to stop bad actors, but I also want big tech out of my coms.

                                      This type of balance is hard to find, as it seems it must be all or nothing. Phone calls can be tapped with a judge order, it should be the same for electronic coms. But the phone company doesn't listen to my calls.

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                                      • ahmedelqadey@mastodon.socialA ahmedelqadey@mastodon.social

                                        @Tutanota The issue isn't that you're making a security tradeoff it's that you talk about privacy as if it's absolute, without being upfront about exceptions like this one. If your privacy has limits, say so honestly, instead of marketing it as if it's complete.

                                        tutanota@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        tutanota@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #128

                                        @ahmedelqadey Unfortunately, spammers are abusing VPNs to sign up. Please contact us at hello@tutao.de, and we can help you get started.

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