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"We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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  • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

    "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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    #31

    @Elizafox because if USA looses AI race you will all discover why socialism was actually not that bad of an idea.

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    • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

      "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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      #32

      @Elizafox oil is still too cheap; no money in transporting people; muricans don't have more to spend on health; qol is EU propaganda -- we da best

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      • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

        "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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        #33

        @Elizafox summary: because capitalism.

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        • martenson@mastodon.worldM martenson@mastodon.world

          @Elizafox oil is still too cheap; no money in transporting people; muricans don't have more to spend on health; qol is EU propaganda -- we da best

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          #34

          @martenson @Elizafox They don't have enough to spend on health because it's going into the pockets of insurance executives and private equity firms. The USA spends more per person than countries with universal health care and gets worse results.

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          • jaaphuib@mastodon.nlJ jaaphuib@mastodon.nl

            @Elizafox
            Because the few in power expect to get even more money out of the AI race.
            And they do not need solar, high speed rail, improved health care or whatever, since they can already always buy their way to the best service for themselves.

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            #35

            @jaaphuib @Elizafox I'm not sure why, AI isn't exactly profitable.

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            • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

              "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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              #36

              @Elizafox bc we’re losing those races and Trump hates losers is my bet

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              • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

                "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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                #37

                @Elizafox none of that will soothe the aristocracy's square-one demand for slaves, whatever shape they might take

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                • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

                  "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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                  #38

                  @Elizafox who exactly is "we"?

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                  • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

                    "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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                    #39

                    @Elizafox We are all of it. China is challenging.

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                    • ariaflame@masto.aiA ariaflame@masto.ai

                      @jaaphuib @Elizafox I'm not sure why, AI isn't exactly profitable.

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                      #40

                      @ariaflame @jaaphuib @Elizafox Exactly. They've figured out the way to make insane amounts of money *without* being profitable. Why deal with the hassle of profit when you can just keep saying "this model is better than the last one" and people just keep throwing money at you?

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                      • aburgerabz@mastodon.socialA aburgerabz@mastodon.social

                        @Elizafox who exactly is "we"?

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                        #41

                        @aburgerabz @Elizafox Good question. With saying “we” it’s implied that I should identify with those who do these things. I don’t. I’m not in a race with China in anything. I don’t want the elected leaders to be either, but unfortunately they don’t represent me too well.

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                        • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

                          "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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                          #42

                          @Elizafox Because China already won those races. In our System it would require too much investment in basic infrastructure which wouldn't translate to stock prices. Neither parliament nor We The People would allow wasting so much money without immediate cash profit.

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                          • pockets@lgbtqia.spaceP pockets@lgbtqia.space

                            @Elizafox
                            What was that thing in "Oppenheimer" where he took the math to Einstein because there was a concern that it would ignite our atmosphere?

                            That's where we're at.
                            How many groups have said that AI is likely to kill us all, but they're *still* racing towards it?

                            I guess people are more concerned about *which* AI kills us than *whether* AI kills us. I mean, we'll be dead either way, so why does it matter?

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                            #43

                            @pockets @Elizafox Because LLMs are merely probability machines. They are, in itself, not dangerous. But take stupid and/or malicious humans and anything can become a weapon. If you give your toddler access to your bank account, the result will be disastrous but you wouldn't put your toddler in a high security prison.

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                            • shaedrich@mastodon.onlineS shaedrich@mastodon.online

                              @pockets @Elizafox Because LLMs are merely probability machines. They are, in itself, not dangerous. But take stupid and/or malicious humans and anything can become a weapon. If you give your toddler access to your bank account, the result will be disastrous but you wouldn't put your toddler in a high security prison.

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                              #44

                              @pockets @Elizafox LLMs don't have a conscience and therefore no intent to kill us. But people using it for purposes they are not made for and at alarming rates, will kill us.

                              2/2

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                              • elizafox@social.treehouse.systemsE elizafox@social.treehouse.systems

                                "We're in an AI race with China" okay why aren't we in a solar race or high-speed rail race or healthcare race or quality of life race or some shit.

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                                #45

                                @Elizafox Is China advancing in healthcare and quality of life?

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                                • gytisrepecka@social.gyt.isG gytisrepecka@social.gyt.is

                                  @Elizafox Is China advancing in healthcare and quality of life?

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                                  #46

                                  @gytisrepecka @Elizafox idk, but we're definitely declining on both in Europe and the US.

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                                  • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                                    @gytisrepecka @Elizafox idk, but we're definitely declining on both in Europe and the US.

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                                    #47

                                    @gytisrepecka @Elizafox definitely two races China can win by simply not making things worse on purpose.

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                                    • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

                                      @gytisrepecka @Elizafox idk, but we're definitely declining on both in Europe and the US.

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                                      #48

                                      @elexia Can't comment on whole Europe, but at least in Lithuania healthcare is at the best state it ever was

                                      @Elizafox

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                                      • gytisrepecka@social.gyt.isG gytisrepecka@social.gyt.is

                                        @elexia Can't comment on whole Europe, but at least in Lithuania healthcare is at the best state it ever was

                                        @Elizafox

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                                        #49

                                        @gytisrepecka @Elizafox interesting, cause every country I know enough about to comment on is getting worse. usually in large part due to deliberate sabotage from major political forces (for example in the UK and Germany), but also in part cause they just want to pretend the pandemic is over and so they let staff and patients get sick over and over and over because doing even as little infection prevention as pre-pandemic is politically fraught now.

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                                        • patchyouup@mastodon.socialP patchyouup@mastodon.social

                                          @ariaflame @jaaphuib @Elizafox Exactly. They've figured out the way to make insane amounts of money *without* being profitable. Why deal with the hassle of profit when you can just keep saying "this model is better than the last one" and people just keep throwing money at you?

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                                          #50

                                          @patchyouup @ariaflame @Elizafox

                                          When you sit in the top of the pyramid, of whatever you invest in and get hyped, it doesn't have to be profitable.

                                          Only thing to monitor is the right time to withdraw from the hype.
                                          Everyone else will pay for the losses.

                                          You can count your profits and start the next bubble.

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