Decided to make a dedicated page for this.
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@brennan after past drama involving fedi instances and russians (separate dramas)...
@ophis oh what? that's news to me
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Decided to make a dedicated page for this.
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That’s a bold claim—do you have any evidence? Because anyone can make a claim.@parabellum_linux_project what claim? there are dozens of references on the site.
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@ophis FUCK
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@parabellum_linux_project what claim? there are dozens of references on the site.
@brennan
Fair enough. As a developer building my own projects, I take claims of this scale seriously. Accusing tech giants of funding extremism carries massive legal and reputational risks.I’m open to supporting valid causes, but before I back this, I need you to clearly explain the direct connection to me rather than just leaving raw links. Show me the concrete link, and if it stands up, I’ll consider getting behind it
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@brennan
Fair enough. As a developer building my own projects, I take claims of this scale seriously. Accusing tech giants of funding extremism carries massive legal and reputational risks.I’m open to supporting valid causes, but before I back this, I need you to clearly explain the direct connection to me rather than just leaving raw links. Show me the concrete link, and if it stands up, I’ll consider getting behind it
@parabellum_linux_project literally the first couple links in the references are DHH's writing
https://web.archive.org/web/20250925050154/https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
then, there are many other links from others who have provided lengthy commentary on DHH's past actions and behaviours. I have not made this difficult to understand.
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@parabellum_linux_project literally the first couple links in the references are DHH's writing
https://web.archive.org/web/20250925050154/https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64
then, there are many other links from others who have provided lengthy commentary on DHH's past actions and behaviours. I have not made this difficult to understand.
@brennan So the entire premise relies on DHH’s personal blog posts?
By this logic, if Big Tech sponsors Debian, and a maintainer inside Debian posts controversial political views on their personal blog, does that mean Big Tech is directly funding that political movement?
Supporting open-source infrastructure or using tools built by a dev is not the same as 'funding extremism.' Conflating a developer’s personal writing with corporate extremism funding is a massive logical leap -
@brennan So the entire premise relies on DHH’s personal blog posts?
By this logic, if Big Tech sponsors Debian, and a maintainer inside Debian posts controversial political views on their personal blog, does that mean Big Tech is directly funding that political movement?
Supporting open-source infrastructure or using tools built by a dev is not the same as 'funding extremism.' Conflating a developer’s personal writing with corporate extremism funding is a massive logical leap@parabellum_linux_project DHH runs Omarchy. He has declared himself benevolent dictator and anti-democracy in Omarchy's Doctrine: http://web.archive.org/web/20260911142433/https://omarchy.org/doctrine/ He personally oversees everything and has full control and final say.
Corporations and executives have given him 18 million dollars, that is exponentially more money than any other Linux distro would get. It is clear that money is not required for the development of Omarchy, and it would be naïve to think that.
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@parabellum_linux_project DHH runs Omarchy. He has declared himself benevolent dictator and anti-democracy in Omarchy's Doctrine: http://web.archive.org/web/20260911142433/https://omarchy.org/doctrine/ He personally oversees everything and has full control and final say.
Corporations and executives have given him 18 million dollars, that is exponentially more money than any other Linux distro would get. It is clear that money is not required for the development of Omarchy, and it would be naïve to think that.
@brennan Quoting 'Benevolent Dictator' shows a lack of understanding of tech history. BDFL is a 30-year-old software term used for creators like Linus Torvalds (Linux) and Guido van Rossum (Python)—it has zero connection to political dictatorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_dictator_for_life
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@brennan Quoting 'Benevolent Dictator' shows a lack of understanding of tech history. BDFL is a 30-year-old software term used for creators like Linus Torvalds (Linux) and Guido van Rossum (Python)—it has zero connection to political dictatorship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_dictator_for_life
Corporations fund open-source infrastructure and public code, not personal politics. Conflating technical project governance with 'funding extremism' is pure sensationalism.@parabellum_linux_project No. I know its history. I also know actual history. It is obvious to see what is happening here. I am not conflating anything. These corporations are funding DHH. Omarchy is a front. What would a Linux distro need 18 million dollars for?
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@parabellum_linux_project No. I know its history. I also know actual history. It is obvious to see what is happening here. I am not conflating anything. These corporations are funding DHH. Omarchy is a front. What would a Linux distro need 18 million dollars for?
@brennan As a distro maintainer myself, I know how open-source economics work. Omacom Foundation raised $18.5M to fund Linux desktop infrastructure, developer grants, and open-source tooling—not DHH’s personal account.
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@brennan As a distro maintainer myself, I know how open-source economics work. Omacom Foundation raised $18.5M to fund Linux desktop infrastructure, developer grants, and open-source tooling—not DHH’s personal account.
Claiming a non-profit software foundation is a 'political front' just because it secured major backing shows a complete refusal to separate code funding from conspiracy theoriesRE: https://defcon.social/@retsel/117242405058623746
@parabellum_linux_project no, it didn't. DHH said the money is going to FOSS centralization and marketing: https://social.lol/@retsel@defcon.social/117242405123511625
There's no conspiracy theory here. Giving money to a known problematic figure like DHH (who has been written about for years in this light) normalizes the destructive and harmful politics he is a vocal supporter of.
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RE: https://defcon.social/@retsel/117242405058623746
@parabellum_linux_project no, it didn't. DHH said the money is going to FOSS centralization and marketing: https://social.lol/@retsel@defcon.social/117242405123511625
There's no conspiracy theory here. Giving money to a known problematic figure like DHH (who has been written about for years in this light) normalizes the destructive and harmful politics he is a vocal supporter of.
You just shifted your claim from a 'political front' to acknowledging the money is for FOSS marketing and code.
As a distro maintainer, I know marketing and scaling open source requires serious funding. You are conflating your subjective dislike of DHH with a conspiracy theory about 'funding extremism -
You just shifted your claim from a 'political front' to acknowledging the money is for FOSS marketing and code.
As a distro maintainer, I know marketing and scaling open source requires serious funding. You are conflating your subjective dislike of DHH with a conspiracy theory about 'funding extremism@parabellum_linux_project the marketing is a political front. as I explain on my site, this is going towards efforts of reputation-washing DHH and repairing his image.
You are clearly using an LLM to write these replies, and I appreciate it. You've given me a great back-and-forth which demonstrates why this is such an existential problem.
Also, everything I have been writing to you is on the site I made. Try reading before typing
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@parabellum_linux_project the marketing is a political front. as I explain on my site, this is going towards efforts of reputation-washing DHH and repairing his image.
You are clearly using an LLM to write these replies, and I appreciate it. You've given me a great back-and-forth which demonstrates why this is such an existential problem.
Also, everything I have been writing to you is on the site I made. Try reading before typing
@brennan The arguments are entirely mine—I just use an LLM for translation since English isn't my native language. If you have an issue with that, we can easily continue in Turkish and you can handle the translation yourself.
My point stands: constantly moving your goalposts from 'funding extremism' to 'reputation washing' doesn't change open-source reality. Attacking translation tools instead of addressing FOSS economics just proves you ran out of valid arguments
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@brennan The arguments are entirely mine—I just use an LLM for translation since English isn't my native language. If you have an issue with that, we can easily continue in Turkish and you can handle the translation yourself.
My point stands: constantly moving your goalposts from 'funding extremism' to 'reputation washing' doesn't change open-source reality. Attacking translation tools instead of addressing FOSS economics just proves you ran out of valid arguments️@parabellum_linux_project I can see you do not understand what's going on here still.
Why would DHH's reputation need to be changed and overhauled? Because he is an extremist. That is being funded. Omarchy is he way of normalizing his politics. That is what is so insidious about it.
Do you think a project run by someone who wrote those essays and published that doctrine is just neutral open-source infrastructure? If yes, we disagree on the facts. If no, then we’re arguing about degrees of complicity, not whether there’s a link.
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@parabellum_linux_project I can see you do not understand what's going on here still.
Why would DHH's reputation need to be changed and overhauled? Because he is an extremist. That is being funded. Omarchy is he way of normalizing his politics. That is what is so insidious about it.
Do you think a project run by someone who wrote those essays and published that doctrine is just neutral open-source infrastructure? If yes, we disagree on the facts. If no, then we’re arguing about degrees of complicity, not whether there’s a link.
Argümanlar bana ait, çeviriyle uğraşmamak için Türkçe yazıyorum; artık çeviriyi sen yaparsın.
Bir geliştirici olarak ben de DHH'i veya Omarchy'yi kişisel olarak sevmiyorum. Ama senin iddialarını ben değil, süreç içinde sürekli hedef değiştirerek sen kendin çürüttün. 'Siyasi paravan'dan başlayıp 'sinsi itibar aklamaya' kadar geriledin. İstediğin komploya inanabilirsin ama açık kaynak dünyası blog yazılarıyla değil, kodla yürür. -
Decided to make a dedicated page for this.
@brennan As a mere user with little background knowledge, I got lost on bullet 3 of the initial page because I did not realize that DHH is the Omarchy founder. So weave that in for the unfamiliar folks like myself. Thanks for bringing attention to this. I understood that programming either attracts sick people, but I didn't realize that they'd grouped together. Clearly DHH needs to go and meet the newcomers to London, and probably a few other things.
Words of caution, but not discouragement: Sometime before the 2024 election acceptance in the the US started being co-opted as a bludgeon (by opportunists who are not accepting). The accusation of intolerance was becoming just as corrosive as hate itself, and had I been less wise, I would have thought tolerance was a sham. So make sure to pave a golden path to repentance for these people that isn't a mere show. As Sun Tsu pointed out: "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free." Art of War 7:36. Had I lived a slightly different life, I could have turned out to be an intolerant jerk myself.
Good work!
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@brennan As a mere user with little background knowledge, I got lost on bullet 3 of the initial page because I did not realize that DHH is the Omarchy founder. So weave that in for the unfamiliar folks like myself. Thanks for bringing attention to this. I understood that programming either attracts sick people, but I didn't realize that they'd grouped together. Clearly DHH needs to go and meet the newcomers to London, and probably a few other things.
Words of caution, but not discouragement: Sometime before the 2024 election acceptance in the the US started being co-opted as a bludgeon (by opportunists who are not accepting). The accusation of intolerance was becoming just as corrosive as hate itself, and had I been less wise, I would have thought tolerance was a sham. So make sure to pave a golden path to repentance for these people that isn't a mere show. As Sun Tsu pointed out: "When you surround an army, leave an outlet free." Art of War 7:36. Had I lived a slightly different life, I could have turned out to be an intolerant jerk myself.
Good work!
@atoms4justice thank you for the feedback, i sincerely appreciate it and will tweak the beginning to explain better
