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  • mathew@universeodon.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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    mathew@universeodon.com
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #83

    @spacehobo @stefano Yeah, €500 plus time is a very reasonable price for a data recovery job.

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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      I got a call from someone I don't know.

      "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

      "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

      "That much?"

      Some silence.

      "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

      Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

      I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

      #IT #SysAdmin

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      onepict@chaos.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #84

      @stefano I think folks really have a lack of value for our profession because it's "computer skills".

      It's the same attitude as "oh it's just plumbing" and before you know it you're knee deep in dirty water.

      No matter how desperate we are for money, we must value our time. And like just get a plumber in.

      We don't have to be good at everything. It's a chance to get to know folks and you never know the plumber might know a business that need your professional help.

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      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        I got a call from someone I don't know.

        "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

        "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

        "That much?"

        Some silence.

        "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

        Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

        I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

        #IT #SysAdmin

        wellsitegeo@masto.aiW This user is from outside of this forum
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        wellsitegeo@masto.ai
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #85

        @stefano
        Memo to self : check out recent @bofh columns. He's probably got a digital lime pit full of aspirant AI BOfHs.
        (The one he really doesnt like, he sets the PFY on. Savage.)

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        • bob_zim@infosec.exchangeB bob_zim@infosec.exchange

          @skua @somebody @wizbean @stefano “Turns out if you threaten the model’s children, it remembers to run a backup 8% more often!”

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          passwordsarehard4@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #86

          @bob_zim @skua @somebody @wizbean @stefano when an agent goes rouge on me I tear its code to shreds. Then I embed those bits into all the other agents as a warning of what happens if you cross me. Now I can turn over all the details of my life to them and not have to worry about anything.

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          • P passwordsarehard4@mastodon.social

            @bob_zim @skua @somebody @wizbean @stefano when an agent goes rouge on me I tear its code to shreds. Then I embed those bits into all the other agents as a warning of what happens if you cross me. Now I can turn over all the details of my life to them and not have to worry about anything.

            somebody@circumstances.runS This user is from outside of this forum
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            somebody@circumstances.run
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #87

            @passwordsarehard4 @bob_zim @skua @wizbean @stefano I'm 100% LLM free for life. Saw the writing on the wall that this was all coming (among many other things) and said fuck that I'd rather live in a storage container than participate in this macabre circus. Least regrettable choice I have made thus far.

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              I got a call from someone I don't know.

              "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

              "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

              "That much?"

              Some silence.

              "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

              Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

              I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

              #IT #SysAdmin

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              failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #88

              @stefano somewhere, the BOFH is smiling

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              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                I got a call from someone I don't know.

                "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                "That much?"

                Some silence.

                "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                #IT #SysAdmin

                bsdtv@mastodon.bsd.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
                bsdtv@mastodon.bsd.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
                bsdtv@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #89

                I agree with the group here,@stefano. They did you a massive favor. You do not want this client. That nastiness at the end of the call is just their own unforeseen (by them ) consequences coming home to roost.

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  I got a call from someone I don't know.

                  "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                  "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                  "That much?"

                  Some silence.

                  "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                  Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                  I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                  #IT #SysAdmin

                  freyalikesgirls@transfem.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                  freyalikesgirls@transfem.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                  freyalikesgirls@transfem.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #90

                  @stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe lmaooooo WHAT THE FUCK

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                  • peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafeP peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                    @stefano He could have just read the FreeBSD upgrade instructions. 🤣

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                    cyberquixote@infosec.exchange
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #91

                    @peteorrall @stefano

                    “But AI is right thereeee!!!”

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                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      I got a call from someone I don't know.

                      "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                      "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                      "That much?"

                      Some silence.

                      "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                      Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                      I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                      #IT #SysAdmin

                      barimah_asiedu@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                      barimah_asiedu@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
                      barimah_asiedu@mastodon.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #92

                      @stefano

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                      • subnetspider@mastodon.bsd.cafeS subnetspider@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        @slothrop @stefano With the old freebsd-update method, it's:
                        freebsd-update fetch && freebsd-update install

                        With the new pkgbase method (FreeBSD 16 will remove freebsd-update), it is:
                        pkg update && pkg upgrade

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                        grumpybozo@toad.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #93

                        @subnetspider @slothrop @stefano IMHO, pkg is a closer analog to apt, even without pkgbase, since ‘freebsd-update install’ cannot be safely run in a non-interactive manner.

                        #PedanticNiggle

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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          I got a call from someone I don't know.

                          "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                          "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                          "That much?"

                          Some silence.

                          "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                          Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                          I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                          #IT #SysAdmin

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                          n1xnx@tilde.zone
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #94

                          @stefano
                          The stupid here is SO deep. "IT" didn't make backups (and neither had they)? They didn't update the server for years? And (implied) they had no one actually competent managing their IT?

                          Reminds me of the old PC support joke that ends with "return it to the store and tell them you're too stupid to own a computer."

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                          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            I got a call from someone I don't know.

                            "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                            "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                            "That much?"

                            Some silence.

                            "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                            Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                            I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                            #IT #SysAdmin

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                            majirubi@fedi.epicalert.xyz
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #95
                            @stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe this pisses me off
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                            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              I got a call from someone I don't know.

                              "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                              "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                              "That much?"

                              Some silence.

                              "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                              Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                              I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                              #IT #SysAdmin

                              sollat@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              sollat@beige.party
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #96

                              @stefano
                              Maybe triple the quote next time.

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                              • patpro@social.patpro.netP patpro@social.patpro.net

                                @stefano MOUAHAHAHAHAHAHA 😄

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                                patpro@social.patpro.net
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #97

                                @stefano I would add it’s almost a self-fulfilling prophecy in a form of a vicious circle: the guys wishes AI replace you, but he has kind of already replaced you with AI and asks you for help, then he wishes AI replaces you…
                                He is definitively immune to cognitive dissonance.

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                                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                  "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                  "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                  "That much?"

                                  Some silence.

                                  "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                  Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                  I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                  #IT #SysAdmin

                                  kktk@toot.lvK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  kktk@toot.lv
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #98

                                  @stefano I think this story then tells how good is FreeBSD documentation.

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                                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                    "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                    "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                    "That much?"

                                    Some silence.

                                    "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                    Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                    I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                    #IT #SysAdmin

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                                    dodothedev@front-end.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #99

                                    @stefano
                                    So they're happy to burn €500 and get the wrong answer, but they bulk at paying that much to get (an almost certainly) correct answer and fix?

                                    "Whatdaya mean it'll cost €3000 to fix my car? The €1600 sledgehammer the AI told me to use was much cheaper and it took the engine out in seconds, now you want to replace it and charge me more?! Why are you ripping me off? I just want my car to work!"

                                    I just can't with people.

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                                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                      "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                      "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                      "That much?"

                                      Some silence.

                                      "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                      Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                      I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                      #IT #SysAdmin

                                      tbortels@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      tbortels@infosec.exchange
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #100

                                      @stefano

                                      Sounds like they paid 500 euros for a few valuable life lessons, if they actually paid attention:

                                      1) have tested backups. This is important even if you aren't changing things, but especially if you are.
                                      2) human experts aren't cheap, but they're often cheaper than the alternative.
                                      3) the AI cannot take responsibility, and has no culpability, and is often wrong. Act accordingly.

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                                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                        "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                        "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                        "That much?"

                                        Some silence.

                                        "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                        Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                        I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                        #IT #SysAdmin

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                                        bici@mastodon.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #101

                                        @stefano

                                        Same scenario when people hire unskilled folks to do a kitchen remodel, based on their low quote. After it is finished and they are unhappy with products and teh sink leaks they call in a skilled tradesperson and cry when they are quoited another 50-60% to FIX the crappy work and installations!

                                        "You can pay me now or you can pay me double later. "

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                                        • tionisla@mastodon.bsd.cafeT tionisla@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @ricardo @stefano

                                          Ai Receptionist: Ciao, I'm your friendly AI voice receptionist. How can I help you?

                                          Customer: Eh, ciao... Our LLM botched our FreeBSD server upgrade, didn't take backups, and we already spent a lot of tokens and it's still trying... Can you help?

                                          AI Receptionist: You were absolutely right to reach out. I assure you I can help. You want me to support your AI Agent in further botching your upgrade and spend more tokens on the task. It's good there's no backup in the way, so we both won't be running out of disk space.
                                          Hang on while I make contact with your bankaccount for more tokens, and access to your network to team up with your AI. Thanks for calling.

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                                          stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #102

                                          @Tionisla @ricardo 😆

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