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  3. If I play a YouTube video for ~3 seconds and leave, it becomes marked as completely watched, with the red line extending all the way under the thumbnail.

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  • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

    @mwichary for a couple weeks maybe?

    mwichary@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #11

    @grumpasaurus Years at this point.

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    • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

      @grumpasaurus Years at this point.

      grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @mwichary quick. Play all the videos on my channel

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      • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

        Not only Apple TV. I just reproduced it on iOS. I tapped on this unwatched video and closed it after a second or two. Now it’s marked as completely watched.

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        #13

        It’s been like this for years for me. It is not related to the recent view count change.

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        • grumpasaurus@infosec.exchangeG grumpasaurus@infosec.exchange

          @mwichary quick. Play all the videos on my channel

          hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14

          @grumpasaurus @mwichary great idea

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          • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

            If I play a YouTube video for ~3 seconds and leave, it becomes marked as completely watched, with the red line extending all the way under the thumbnail. It’s been like this forever.

            Does anyone know if this is a bug, or intentional? It’s frustrating to me.

            (Apple TV.)

            chancerubbage@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @mwichary

            Facebook has very strong algorithm bias towards reading someone switching to another app over page as ‘the thing drove you away! We will banish it forever!’

            I see this happen with YouTube as well. I don’t always have time for a video of the length presented. I simply don’t have the time. Maybe later. Where did it go?

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            • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

              It’s been like this for years for me. It is not related to the recent view count change.

              glennf@zeppelin.flightsG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @mwichary Doesn’t happen to me on any platform using YouTube apps or the browser.

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              • glennf@zeppelin.flightsG glennf@zeppelin.flights

                @mwichary Doesn’t happen to me on any platform using YouTube apps or the browser.

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                #17

                @glennf Thanks! It’s all so peculiar.

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                • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                  @glennf Thanks! It’s all so peculiar.

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                  #18

                  @glennf It’s really annoying, but mostly I would love to understand.

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                  • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                    If I play a YouTube video for ~3 seconds and leave, it becomes marked as completely watched, with the red line extending all the way under the thumbnail. It’s been like this forever.

                    Does anyone know if this is a bug, or intentional? It’s frustrating to me.

                    (Apple TV.)

                    nazhamid@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #19

                    @mwichary Same here. It’s sometimes intermittent and happens the first time correctly but subsequent visits or pass-bys are fully to the right.

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                    • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                      Not only Apple TV. I just reproduced it on iOS. I tapped on this unwatched video and closed it after a second or two. Now it’s marked as completely watched.

                      6lr61@mastodon.social6 This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @mwichary it's a livestream, I don't know why youtube does that. even for vertical livestreams you scroll pasts in shorts they're marked as fully watched afterwards.

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                      • 6lr61@mastodon.social6 6lr61@mastodon.social

                        @mwichary it's a livestream, I don't know why youtube does that. even for vertical livestreams you scroll pasts in shorts they're marked as fully watched afterwards.

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                        #21

                        @6lr61 This isn’t specific to livestreams, and happens to normal videos as well.

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                        • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                          If I play a YouTube video for ~3 seconds and leave, it becomes marked as completely watched, with the red line extending all the way under the thumbnail. It’s been like this forever.

                          Does anyone know if this is a bug, or intentional? It’s frustrating to me.

                          (Apple TV.)

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                          #22

                          @mwichary Happens to me all the time, usually when I open an interesting looking video just to put in on my Watch Later list. (There are a bunch of video grids in the YouTube TV app where context menus are not available.)

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                          • diondiondion@indieweb.socialD diondiondion@indieweb.social

                            @mwichary Happens to me all the time, usually when I open an interesting looking video just to put in on my Watch Later list. (There are a bunch of video grids in the YouTube TV app where context menus are not available.)

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                            #23

                            @diondiondion Yeah! I recognize this too, completely.

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                            • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                              It’s been like this for years for me. It is not related to the recent view count change.

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                              #24

                              My occam razor would be something like “two systems inside YT not talking to one another”: the page load saves the video as watched, and the playback progress sends the playhead position to server. If you nope out of the video quickly, the second one never fires, and the system interprets that as “completely watched.”

                              I don’t know if it’s just the UI layer (just shown this way), or system layer (actually recorded this way), and if there is a difference.

                              But why do some people not see it…

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                              • tealtan@mastodon.xyzT tealtan@mastodon.xyz

                                @mwichary …yep. And sometimes, if I stop watching at 90%, it resets the watch progress to 0%.

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                                #25

                                @tealtan @mwichary Ugh, I’ve gotten this too.

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                                • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                                  My occam razor would be something like “two systems inside YT not talking to one another”: the page load saves the video as watched, and the playback progress sends the playhead position to server. If you nope out of the video quickly, the second one never fires, and the system interprets that as “completely watched.”

                                  I don’t know if it’s just the UI layer (just shown this way), or system layer (actually recorded this way), and if there is a difference.

                                  But why do some people not see it…

                                  jwcph@helvede.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #26

                                  @mwichary YT has been utterly broken for years... for me it also does basically the opposite, which is forget the playback position & go back to zero, if I tab out of a video while paused & the page times out & reloads.

                                  BTW it's obvious why the 3-second-watched one always fires; that's the one they use to claim that viewing 3 seconds of a two-hour video counts as "video watched" in their stats. The error is that you see this, but then they really don't care at all about the user experience.

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                                    #27

                                    @Screwtapello Oh, that’s interesting.

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                                    • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                                      @mwichary YT has been utterly broken for years... for me it also does basically the opposite, which is forget the playback position & go back to zero, if I tab out of a video while paused & the page times out & reloads.

                                      BTW it's obvious why the 3-second-watched one always fires; that's the one they use to claim that viewing 3 seconds of a two-hour video counts as "video watched" in their stats. The error is that you see this, but then they really don't care at all about the user experience.

                                      mwichary@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #28

                                      @jwcph …except some people say they never see this problem.

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                                      • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                                        @jwcph …except some people say they never see this problem.

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                                        #29

                                        @jwcph Oh, and also it’s not over 3 seconds. It’s under. So it’s kind of the opposite of your theory?

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                                        • mwichary@mastodon.onlineM mwichary@mastodon.online

                                          @Screwtapello Oh, that’s interesting.

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                                          #30

                                          @Screwtapello I mean I hate it, but I can imagine a) a very old mvp idea like this from early days of YT, and b) a set of cirvumstances that makes this legacy thing still survive to this day under some circumstances.

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