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  • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

    @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

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    #16

    @jeppe this will depend on how the law defines "algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content" - but as mastodon doesn't have a content algorithm (unless you consider chronological listing an algorithm) I don't think this law will apply when an instance just shows illegal content that was posted on another instance. @randahl

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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      #17

      @randahl Just take the opportunity to repeal Article 6 of the Copyright Directive and make it illegal for providers to block users from using a service that extracts your feed from Facebook or X and show you only what you actually want to see.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

        Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

        “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
        Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
        spreading hate must come at a cost.”

        Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

        https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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        nicelymanifest@mastodon.social
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        #18

        @randahl This is beyond brilliant. Maybe the start of backlash at often indulgently reckless natures of the powerful who have a chilling indifference towards those they adversely affect.

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

          Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

          “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
          Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
          spreading hate must come at a cost.”

          Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

          https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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          #19

          @randahl If the techbro pedophile club’s empire crumbles and ends, we will have cause for the first global holiday. Destroy them. Please.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

            Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

            “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
            Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
            spreading hate must come at a cost.”

            Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

            https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

            anikke@procial.tchncs.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #20

            @randahl@mastodon.social

            I want to have this for the entiere EU.

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            • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

              @jeppe

              You probably don't know much about what goes on in small instances.

              They are very aware of the need to moderate. This is not a threat to them in any way.

              But we can hope it's a threat to mastodon dot social, because maybe then they will start carrying their own weight.

              @ecomba @randahl

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              #21

              @jeppe @ecomba @randahl @androcat the effect will be small. Based on the news (there is no law right now), using algorithms to spread hate, will be illegal. Mastodon does not use such "algorithms" to push engagement. So here we would be fine. The other part is content moderation. We need to get better at that. Many smaller instances are better at that. Still we need maybe new ways to improve that. However, everyone can limit hate, by not boosting it. Thus, we are part of the solution.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                #22

                @randahl @niksii This is good, obviously. The only negative is the fact that they’re planning to ban social media from teens. So teens will be punished for the crimes of social media companies.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                  Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                  “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                  Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                  spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                  Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                  https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                  #23

                  @randahl - 1000% - Good charge him for peddling kiddie Porn.

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                  • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

                    @randahl This does not bode well for social media in general and the big platforms (Xitter, Meta, TikTok) in particular.
                    At least when it comes to a Spanish legal perspective...

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                    alexafontanilla2024@mastodon.social
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                    #24

                    @grumpydad
                    #PostOfTheWeek (season 3):
                    Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez credited Morocco’s migration cooperation during a CNN interview at the World Governments Summit in Dubai, positioning the partnership as a template for European Union policy.

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                    • A alexafontanilla2024@mastodon.social

                      @grumpydad
                      #PostOfTheWeek (season 3):
                      Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez credited Morocco’s migration cooperation during a CNN interview at the World Governments Summit in Dubai, positioning the partnership as a template for European Union policy.

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                      #25

                      @grumpydad
                      Sánchez stated that close coordination with Rabat has “very significantly” reduced irregular arrivals on Spanish territory. He identified Morocco as an essential strategic partner in regional migration management, attributing migration flow control to joint engagement and coordination with origin and transit countries.

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                        Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                        “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                        Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                        spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                        Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                        https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                        betterifyouneil@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #26

                        ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

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                        • prefec2@norden.socialP prefec2@norden.social

                          @jeppe @ecomba @randahl @androcat the effect will be small. Based on the news (there is no law right now), using algorithms to spread hate, will be illegal. Mastodon does not use such "algorithms" to push engagement. So here we would be fine. The other part is content moderation. We need to get better at that. Many smaller instances are better at that. Still we need maybe new ways to improve that. However, everyone can limit hate, by not boosting it. Thus, we are part of the solution.

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                          #27

                          @prefec2

                          And by reporting it.
                          And by muting or defederating from instances that won't listen.
                          There's a whole bunch of things that can be done.

                          But there are for sure small instances that are poorly moderated (for instance because the admin is a harasser) and these should in fact just be tossed out (defederated).

                          @jeppe @ecomba @randahl

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                          • milesizdead@mementomori.socialM milesizdead@mementomori.social

                            @randahl @niksii This is good, obviously. The only negative is the fact that they’re planning to ban social media from teens. So teens will be punished for the crimes of social media companies.

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                            #28

                            @milesizdead yeah, it is sad that politicians all over the world are morally panicking and banning social media from teen instead of keeping companies accountable for the problem like bad moderation etc. @randahl

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                              Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                              “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                              Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                              spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                              Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                              https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                              #29

                              @randahl Potzblitz 🌩️ Wonderful ideas, hopefully they will be finalized in all of EU!

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                              • ecomba@ruby.socialE ecomba@ruby.social

                                @jeppe @randahl I don’t acuse you of anything, nor did I imply. I was talking in a general sense. The federated nature of the fedi makes it a little muddier, that is very true. I still believe it’s a great move though. Some things will get harder, but as the saying goes, doing the right thing is more often than not harder.

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                                #30

                                @ecomba @jeppe @randahl It is rather simple, if a node in the federation allows or amplifies that type of content, you ban the node from the fediverse

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                  Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                  “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                  Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                  spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                  Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                  https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                  #31

                                  @randahl Yes! About time the shit platforms were held liable for content, like a publisher.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                    Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                    “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                    Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                    spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                    Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                    https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                                    bluszcz@mastodon.com.plB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #32

                                    @randahl Sanchez is really fine

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                      #33

                                      One can expect people in Spain will move to Mastodon and then it will become more popular.

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                                      • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                                        @randahl Potzblitz 🌩️ Wonderful ideas, hopefully they will be finalized in all of EU!

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                                        #34

                                        @energisch_
                                        Und dann ist es auch kein Problem mehr, Minderjährige da drauf zu lassen.
                                        @randahl

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                                        • nike_leonhard@literatur.socialN nike_leonhard@literatur.social

                                          @energisch_
                                          Und dann ist es auch kein Problem mehr, Minderjährige da drauf zu lassen.
                                          @randahl

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                                          #35

                                          @Nike_Leonhard @randahl like in Australia, where most of the teens find ways around?
                                          No - I, too, wished an internet, that's save for all to use. And accessible for all. Those plattforms who do wish to boost stuff, that's rather uhm, naughty and not nice?
                                          Well, they can offer closed memberships, like clubs. Maybe with extra safety strings attached. But in general: Chat should be okay for everyone to use safely and without 💩 fans and algorithms to spread BS more quickly.

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