I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account...
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@benroyce @sundogplanets This was exactly what I thought of as soon as I read @lisamelton 's post about mansplaining
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@benroyce omg! Perfection!
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I was looking for this example.
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I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart@sundogplanets Loving the just stop talking now button!
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@ives @sundogplanets @lauerhahn @LauraleeDukeshire I gotta say, that phrasing particularly is really bad for me as an autistic person. All I wind up thinking is “I don’t know what you consider familiarity and if it’s the same thing I consider familiar, I wish you’d just give me the background that you think is relevant to your point, and let me filter for myself if it’s useful right now”
It winds up with so many meetings going poorly because there is no universal and usefully external measure of familiarity with a given topic
@loops @ives @sundogplanets @lauerhahn @LauraleeDukeshire
Customary answers to the question of familiarity attempt to gauge levels, in the way you are asking for:
-Are you familiar with Sartre?
-Well, I read his books when I was a teenager like ya do, but I haven't taken a class or read any analysis or anything
It's not necessarily a yes or no question
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Tend to have an annoying habit of agreeing wholeheartedly with a post, then adding link dumps of examples & expansions of how wonderfully correct they are.
It's mistaken for mansplaining.
Or as hijacking the intent of their post.
Or as "Teaching grandmother to suck eggs" .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_grandmother_to_suck_eggsApologies once again for the irritation this habit causes.
You know your stuff, comments from the peanut gallery aren't always helpful.
Don't change a thing Nicole. We love you and your links just the way they are.
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@CatpayneWaffle @sundogplanets
Theoretically, in some alternate universe where women hold most of the power and have historically steamrolled right over any man who dared to know stuff, maybe. In the universe we actually live in though, womansplaining is not a thing.
@bruce @sundogplanets oh so it is only sexism when men do it?
Is it like "only white people can be racist" thing?
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I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart@sundogplanets can it be printed on a shirt? Or make several copies put them in a folder, drop one casually as you leave a conference, on the lap of every man who mansplained as you exit.
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@benroyce @sundogplanets and she's too modest to mention all the AI Ethics work she did while at Google, at deep personal cost since Google retaliated against her.
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I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart@sundogplanets A male administrator at the meeting of the faculty's DEI board, in a room full of mostly academics, mostly female, saying something about intervening variables (without using that term) in relation to salary statistics and ending his turn with 'yeah, do you understand what I am saying, because it is a bit technical'. Just an example from the past week.
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I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart@sundogplanets Tnx for sharing
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@hauchvonstaub @someguy @sundogplanets
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as an Autist, my experience is being told I’m mansplaining while simultaneously not being heard and the mansplaining offence was for stuff I do not think and never said but every NT person thinks all by themselves and the thing I said that they didn’t know they still don’t know.
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There’s no sense mansplaining to some people.
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howTF am I mansplaining when you didn’t know the thing before and you still don’t know it after
@punishmenthurts @hauchvonstaub @sundogplanets I think the tone and intent behind the "explanation" is what constitutes mansplaining. In other words there is some degree of sexism involved.
As a fellow autist, I have to wonder if another fellow autist speaking about one of their passions in insane detail (all too common) is confused for mansplaining.
While I have certainly talked about one of my passions (synthesizers) in such detail to others no one has accused me of it. Though, for some I can definitely see this happening.
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@ives @sundogplanets Here is my suggestion. When you feel yourself about to explain something, ask her "Are you familiar with _____?". She can either tell you what she knows or ask for an explanation so, that the two of you can establish a common starting point for the next part of conversation.
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@bruce @sundogplanets oh so it is only sexism when men do it?
Is it like "only white people can be racist" thing?
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@benroyce @sundogplanets “my dear”!!
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I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart@sundogplanets love it! Can mansplaining only happen be targeted at women or do mansplainers also mansplain to men sometimes? I have some examples in mind…
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@benroyce @sundogplanets jajajja
