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Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

    chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #3

    @randahl I saw someone yesterday say that solar and wind are just as “vulnerable” because so much of it is also shipped through the narrow straits of Malacca(?)…. Ignoring, or ignorant, of the fact that because the energy for renewables actually comes from the sun, only new or replacement solar/wind capacity would potentially be disrupted by this kind of shut down….

    The sun would still shine and the wind would still blow, the rivers, magma, and tides would still flow, all no matter how many wars some idiot starts.

    sleepy62@social.vivaldi.netS curtadams@urbanists.socialC lackattack@mastodon.socialL ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG 4 Replies Last reply
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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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      #4

      @randahl 🤣😫☺️

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

        tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #5

        @randahl if only we had ways to produce energy that don't rely on oil.

        If only...

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        • noondlyt@hellions.cloudN noondlyt@hellions.cloud

          @randahl

          Or the oil refineries and fields are on fire or destroyed

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          #6

          @noondlyt @randahl "Kinetic intermittency"

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          • martinvermeer@fediscience.orgM martinvermeer@fediscience.org

            @noondlyt @randahl "Kinetic intermittency"

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            #7

            @martinvermeer @randahl

            Thank you.

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            • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

              @randahl I saw someone yesterday say that solar and wind are just as “vulnerable” because so much of it is also shipped through the narrow straits of Malacca(?)…. Ignoring, or ignorant, of the fact that because the energy for renewables actually comes from the sun, only new or replacement solar/wind capacity would potentially be disrupted by this kind of shut down….

              The sun would still shine and the wind would still blow, the rivers, magma, and tides would still flow, all no matter how many wars some idiot starts.

              sleepy62@social.vivaldi.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @chris @randahl

              Like saying the Iran war will cause a shortage of jerrycans...

              Its amazing to me how many people confuse the energy with the generator.

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              • tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.oneT tootbrute@fedi.arkadi.one

                @randahl if only we had ways to produce energy that don't rely on oil.

                If only...

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                #9

                @tootbrute @randahl

                That's just crazy. Why, you would need some sort of super fusion reactor safely placed about 90 million miles away for that.

                Oh.

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                • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                  @randahl I saw someone yesterday say that solar and wind are just as “vulnerable” because so much of it is also shipped through the narrow straits of Malacca(?)…. Ignoring, or ignorant, of the fact that because the energy for renewables actually comes from the sun, only new or replacement solar/wind capacity would potentially be disrupted by this kind of shut down….

                  The sun would still shine and the wind would still blow, the rivers, magma, and tides would still flow, all no matter how many wars some idiot starts.

                  curtadams@urbanists.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @chris @randahl Also ignoring there's an entire ocean of alternatives to the Straits of Malacca - somewhat longer, but quite viable, unlike the Persian Gulf with only one way out.

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                    #11

                    @randahl @jachym That is, of course, nonsense and a lie. Cars continue to drive, planes continue to fly, plastics continue to be produced...and donkeys continue to bray.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                      #12

                      @randahl

                      https://ourworldindata.org/2024-living-planet-index

                      And long after most of us are drowned from CO2 pollution the winds will still be blowing.

                      Life -> CO2 Sequestering -> Amazing and Beautiful Life and Diversity -> Industrial Revolution -> Human Growth -> Greed -> Scrabbling Control -> Planetary Corrections

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                      • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                        @randahl I saw someone yesterday say that solar and wind are just as “vulnerable” because so much of it is also shipped through the narrow straits of Malacca(?)…. Ignoring, or ignorant, of the fact that because the energy for renewables actually comes from the sun, only new or replacement solar/wind capacity would potentially be disrupted by this kind of shut down….

                        The sun would still shine and the wind would still blow, the rivers, magma, and tides would still flow, all no matter how many wars some idiot starts.

                        lackattack@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #13

                        @chris @randahl My thoughts are with those photon tanker crews. Godspeed, heroes. Hope that strait opens soon. I need my EV gas!!!

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                          #14

                          @randahl

                          What if... we plugged the turbines into the wall? They'd turn all the time then.

                          That's my VC pitch, please leave your briefcases of cash at my feet and any gold bars can go in my Honda.

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                            #15

                            @randahl ... but wind keeps coming back, Trump hopefully not.

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                              #16

                              @randahl To be fair, wind turbines doesn't work when the winds are blowing too hard either.

                              They need "goldilocks-winds" 🙂

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                                #17

                                @randahl While the wind is still blowing in Danmark and the Netherlands

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                                  #18

                                  @randahl 💯 best statement in the whole world for the past 13 months.

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                                  • chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.caC chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca

                                    @randahl I saw someone yesterday say that solar and wind are just as “vulnerable” because so much of it is also shipped through the narrow straits of Malacca(?)…. Ignoring, or ignorant, of the fact that because the energy for renewables actually comes from the sun, only new or replacement solar/wind capacity would potentially be disrupted by this kind of shut down….

                                    The sun would still shine and the wind would still blow, the rivers, magma, and tides would still flow, all no matter how many wars some idiot starts.

                                    ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #19

                                    @chris @randahl

                                    Oil and natural gas provide feed stocks for much more than just diesel and petrol.

                                    sour crude extracted in the region is a primary source of sulfur. sulfur is a feed stock for sulfuric acid. Sulfuric acid is a chemical that’s used to extract and refine copper, nickel, cobalt, and lithium. Oil is an input to a lot of products.

                                    Natural gas and sulfur are also feed stocks for fertilizer.

                                    The global supply chain is the risk

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                                      #20

                                      @randahl and most of those suffering for it are not those people.

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                                      • zoufalec@mastodonczech.czZ zoufalec@mastodonczech.cz

                                        @randahl @jachym That is, of course, nonsense and a lie. Cars continue to drive, planes continue to fly, plastics continue to be produced...and donkeys continue to bray.

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                                        #21

                                        @Zoufalec @randahl @jachym Is that why the EU and the US have begun using their emergency reserves, because it’s not an emergency?

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Those who keep complaining that wind turbines do not work when the winds are not blowing, just realized that oil does not work when the Hormuz Strait is not open.

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                                          #22

                                          @randahl The real problem is that wind turbines are not a substitute for fossil energy.

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