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  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

    blag@typo.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @sarae Fringe benefit of starring posts that I discovered is that they then show up when you search using the 'in:library' qualifier.

    This is a nice way of not trying to bookmark everything that you might want to find again at a later date.

    I am still trying to boost or comment rather than favourite where I can, as I do think these forms of engagement are really important here.

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    • awawawa@mastodon.socialA awawawa@mastodon.social

      @sarae when i say something here and it's a funny/emotional/interesting thing to me, then a friend presses that button, it makes me go "hehehe! they saw that :D"

      sarae@ecoevo.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      @awawawa yeah I often use it as a way to let people know I saw their reply in a conversation

      or as a "hey, right on"

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      • blag@typo.socialB blag@typo.social

        @sarae Fringe benefit of starring posts that I discovered is that they then show up when you search using the 'in:library' qualifier.

        This is a nice way of not trying to bookmark everything that you might want to find again at a later date.

        I am still trying to boost or comment rather than favourite where I can, as I do think these forms of engagement are really important here.

        sarae@ecoevo.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @blag oh I'm a big fan of boosting, obvs

        but I also kind of have an idea about "these are the topics I'm sharing news about" and when things are way outside that, it's good to have another tool in the box

        I use boosting more like I use sharing articles the the family group texts

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        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

          gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #7

          @sarae I’ve not seen the nega-fav posts, what they got against favoriting?

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          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

            lalah@sakurajima.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #8

            @sarae oh no, not this nonsense again... I remember last time they were saying, "never fav or boost, only leave comments!" as if there aren't enough reply guys already!

            actual discussion is good of course, but commenting for the sake of commenting... why?

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            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

              @awawawa yeah I often use it as a way to let people know I saw their reply in a conversation

              or as a "hey, right on"

              moss@kind.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #9

              @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

              in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

              I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

              gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG mycrowgirl@flipping.rocksM 2 Replies Last reply
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              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                david_preston@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                david_preston@mastodon.social
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                #10

                @sarae I generally have very low interaction stats on here though in general for digital socialising media but the little interactions I do have are quite warming to my cockles and perhaps help me to bring the hots to the niche masses. #mastodon #socialmedia #silentsunday

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                • recalcitrant@autonomous.zoneR recalcitrant@autonomous.zone

                  @sarae I personally don’t fav because favs don’t autodelete as far as I can tell! But favs are great if you’re not worried about that!

                  leguinian_utopia@union.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #11

                  @Recalcitrant I think that can be turned off, or at least I remember untoggling something lime that 😅

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                  • leguinian_utopia@union.placeL leguinian_utopia@union.place

                    @Recalcitrant I think that can be turned off, or at least I remember untoggling something lime that 😅

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                    #12

                    @leguinian_utopia hmmmmmm I’ll look into it

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                    • moss@kind.socialM moss@kind.social

                      @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

                      in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

                      I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

                      gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @moss @sarae @awawawa Agree. If someone posts that they’re having a hard time, often I might not fully understand why or how and worry about commenting delicately. So I favorite the post to be supportive, to acknowledge their discomfort .

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                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                        shnooflebear@curly.catS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #14

                        @sarae Sounds like the old "gaming the algorithm" mind set. Luckily, on Mastodon, things that are worth spreading, are spread, whether you fav it, or not.

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                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                          colo_lee@mstdn.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #15

                          @sarae total agreement.

                          maximizing-reach culture is toxic. It's a very good thing to leave behind here in the fediverse.

                          Being kind and recognizing each other is good. And it's the kind of lovely action we should be encouraging...

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                          • lalah@sakurajima.moeL lalah@sakurajima.moe

                            @sarae oh no, not this nonsense again... I remember last time they were saying, "never fav or boost, only leave comments!" as if there aren't enough reply guys already!

                            actual discussion is good of course, but commenting for the sake of commenting... why?

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                            #16

                            @lalah that really confused me as well

                            commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut

                            hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                              schratze@todon.nlS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #17

                              @sarae literally who says this

                              I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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                              • gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG gpjohnston@mastodon.social

                                @sarae I’ve not seen the nega-fav posts, what they got against favoriting?

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                                #18

                                @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

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                                • moss@kind.socialM moss@kind.social

                                  @sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen

                                  in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”

                                  I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?

                                  mycrowgirl@flipping.rocksM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #19

                                  @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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                                  • gpjohnston@mastodon.socialG gpjohnston@mastodon.social

                                    @moss @sarae @awawawa Agree. If someone posts that they’re having a hard time, often I might not fully understand why or how and worry about commenting delicately. So I favorite the post to be supportive, to acknowledge their discomfort .

                                    sarae@ecoevo.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #20

                                    @GPJohnston @moss @awawawa yep exactly this

                                    "hang in there buddy times are tough but I am on Team You and hoping for the best"

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                                    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                      kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #21

                                      @sarae@ecoevo.social

                                      it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                      the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

                                      it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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                                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                        @GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system

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                                        #22

                                        @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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                                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                          yjeva@mastodon.nzY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #23

                                          @sarae l have always thought it was like giving a friendly wave to someone on the street to let them know I have seen them even if I am not going to stop to chat right now.

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