I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise w...
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I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.
Yup. It never was about protecting cis women amd girls, and all about hating trans women and girls.
Hate is all they have. Pathetic really.
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@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social It’s fascinating that payment processors and app stores happily bullied Tumblr over female presenting nipples and have kicked adult game creators off of Steam, but have been completely silent on CSAM and misogyny generated on X
@Steve @GossiTheDog what payment processors does X use? Seems like something they would need to be pushed on.
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So now that Grok is keeping Deepfakes behind a paywall, when are they going after Gemini and ChatGPT, who when presented with the right prompt will gladly undress a uploaded photo, except for free.
The international laws against deepfakes will have to be made first and force any AI to stop doing it.
Because right now, Gen AI can also be ran locally, and easily without any restriction.
You can't win this with just hating on Elon Musk. There's so much more to this.
You can start with the loudest, dumbest, least self-aware, most unearnedly-confident criminal, and go after him in the jurisdiction where it is easiest to get him, and proceed from there.
You can't do everything at once, and doing one thing at a time isn't doing nothing. In fact, trying to do everything is closer to doing nothing than doing one thing.
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@GossiTheDog I’ve just sent that email to our external communications team- the reply will be “interesting”
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I find it interesting that there's loads of people who made a core part of their identity campaigning against trans women being in women's spaces and how it impacts women, who have gone completely silent about Grok being used to undress and brutalise women.
@GossiTheDog Intereating that the far right, who claim they want to "protect women and children", are silent too.
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@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social It’s fascinating that payment processors and app stores happily bullied Tumblr over female presenting nipples and have kicked adult game creators off of Steam, but have been completely silent on CSAM and misogyny generated on X
@Steve @GossiTheDog They punch down
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@Steve @GossiTheDog what payment processors does X use? Seems like something they would need to be pushed on.
@ikuturso @Steve @GossiTheDog Sex workers are heavily censored by Visa and MC. Not just visuals, but speech. There are entire lists of words and subjects that a phone sex operator cannot talk about, or they won't have payment processing anymore (and I've worked for companies that got shut down over it). But men undressing and brutalizing children is fine.
Phone sex ops in 2008 (not sure if it has changed) couldn't talk about witchcraft as pretend, because what if she was really using it?
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@cstross @futurebird @GossiTheDog how is the llc giving these people a fig leaf for overt criminal, morally reprehensible, actions?
@Seruko @cstross @futurebird @GossiTheDog It isn't. Call me cynical, but the only reason X is still standing is
1) CSAM is not its primary purpose
2) It's large and has lots of money
3) well known figures are on itIf it was a small server hosted in the UK it would already have been taken down.
It doesn't provide a fig leaf, it's just that the law has not (yet) caught up with end users using it to generate illegal content.
I'd also note that if CSAM can be located the first action is typically to seize all the computers.
Expect phase 1 - if X doesn't fix this, it'll be added to the Great British Firewall which currently blocks CSAM and a few proscribed groups. I don't see the government backing down.
phase 2 - police investigation. Anyone that can be identified, *especially* those stupid enough to try creating unwanted images of MPs, will be prosecuted.
Phase 3 - shine a light on people using VPNs to get around geoblocking or age verification for entirely legitimate content. Great.. :(.
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@GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social It’s fascinating that payment processors and app stores happily bullied Tumblr over female presenting nipples and have kicked adult game creators off of Steam, but have been completely silent on CSAM and misogyny generated on X
@Steve @GossiTheDog *Especially* since Elon has made it clear that the CSAM generator now is a for-profit feature. Blocking grok/X payments would be appropriate.
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The UK government says the move by X to limit Grok to paid users is “insulting” and basically monetising abuse, and they would support a ban of X in the UK if recommended by the regulator. They’ve asked the regulator for recommendations in days. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99kn52nx9do
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What a shame the UK gvmt is unable to make up its own mind -
Some Grok users, mostly men, began to demand to see bruising on the bodies of the women, and for blood to be added to the images. Requests to show women tied up and gagged were instantly granted.
‘Add blood, forced smile’
WTAF??
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