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  3. These companies all want sun-synchronous terminator orbits, so that they can be sunlit all the time*.

These companies all want sun-synchronous terminator orbits, so that they can be sunlit all the time*.

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  • davidm_yeg@beige.partyD davidm_yeg@beige.party

    @sundogplanets

    That was my thought… the glorious band of the Milky Way that most urbanites don’t even know they are missing anymore will be replaced by a bright, gaudy tech band that will shine through even the worst light pollution.😞

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    @DavidM_yeg
    Who'd have thunk Star Wars would take this shape?
    @sundogplanets

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      #31

      @sundogplanets
      Great and important work. But I'm not sure I would have used the same title. When reading about rings in the abstract, I noticed that I had immediately beautiful images of planets with rings in my mind. Even though I know that it will be horrible.
      @hannorein

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Here's the future that the techbros want. Earth as a ringed planet.

        What does that actually look like in the sky? Well, it depends on your latitude and the time of year. The worst time of year for sunlit Starlink satellites is summer, but due to these orbits, the worst time for sunlit sun-synchronous terminator orbits is actually the wintertime.

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        @sundogplanets
        Arrrgh!

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          From the far north (or far south), you'd see one of the rings continuously, all through the long winter night (which could be 24 hours of darkness and near-darkness). But the satellites will keep you company! Ugh. Gross. There would be more bright satellites than bright stars, all night long.

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          @sundogplanets Really interesting renders. Have you calculated the total brightness? Like is it "oh there's a ridiculous quantity of star-like points" or "now the ground is lit like half moonlight all the time"?

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Now Blue Origin's "Sunrise" which has the X-ring configurations. Here's from 30N on the winter solstice.

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            @sundogplanets they really took the Eye of Sauron as a challenge, huh

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            • wikkit@mastodon.socialW wikkit@mastodon.social

              @sundogplanets Really interesting renders. Have you calculated the total brightness? Like is it "oh there's a ridiculous quantity of star-like points" or "now the ground is lit like half moonlight all the time"?

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              @wikkit I thought about this as I've laid awake in the middle of the night. Would the rings cast shadows??? UGH. I should actually calculate that at some point...

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                I'll end with my favourite sentence from our paper: "This new, anthropogenic sky feature would even be easily visible in a light-polluted city: the natural patterns of the star-filled night sky that have been a source of wonder and knowledge for all of human history will have been erased by urban light pollution and then replaced by human-made artificial patterns."

                This is stupid. Stop launching satellites just because you can, techbros.

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                @sundogplanets Sam, I'd like you to know that you're my new spirit animal!

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  And then there's SpaceX's freaking ridiculous million satellite filing. I had to reduce the frame rate for this animation because it made my computer (and me) sad. We called this the "overalls" configuration. Giant overalls, in the sky. Anytime the megaconstellation is sunlit, there are more satellites than stars visible in the sky.

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                  @sundogplanets
                  WHOA ... do these gazillion of satellites at least filter out some sunlight and stop global warming?

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Here's the future that the techbros want. Earth as a ringed planet.

                    What does that actually look like in the sky? Well, it depends on your latitude and the time of year. The worst time of year for sunlit Starlink satellites is summer, but due to these orbits, the worst time for sunlit sun-synchronous terminator orbits is actually the wintertime.

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                    #38

                    @sundogplanets With all the LOS, more like a mini-Dyson sphere.

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                    • lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.orgL lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org

                      @sundogplanets With all the LOS, more like a mini-Dyson sphere.

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                      @lauren @sundogplanets

                      Kessler Sphere?

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                      • perrin42@mastodon.socialP perrin42@mastodon.social

                        @lauren @sundogplanets

                        Kessler Sphere?

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                        @Perrin42 @lauren @sundogplanets

                        lol thanks I hate it

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                        • teflontrout@beige.partyT teflontrout@beige.party

                          @Perrin42 @lauren @sundogplanets

                          lol thanks I hate it

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                          @TeflonTrout @lauren @sundogplanets

                          Dyson Sphere implies intent and usefulness.

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                          • perrin42@mastodon.socialP perrin42@mastodon.social

                            @TeflonTrout @lauren @sundogplanets

                            Dyson Sphere implies intent and usefulness.

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                            @TeflonTrout @lauren @sundogplanets

                            Hmm, Kessler Sphere might also be another potential answer to the Fermi Paradox.

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